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There should be a sound effects tag, I say. Like noise or moan.
Mainly because sound-effects, grunts, moans, and breathing sound effects are clogging up the translated tag.
Examples:
post #1093786
post #1093787
NSFW:
post #1091260
^ I cannot in good conscience label these things "translated" because no actual words are present.
Updated by Katajanmarja
Agreed on not adding "translated" to those images. Not sure if we need another tag for it (can't hurt I guess), but they should not have translated.
More examples:
post #1094289
post #1087375
post #1096265
Also, I propose that in a larger context (For example, if the post is part of a series) then they could be labeled as both translated and noise.
Updated
You mean the grossly unused onomatopoeia tag?
I've never bothered with it because it's far harder to find an image that has *any* Japanese words that originate from persons or actions in an image that the tag wouldn't apply to.
It happens to be the correct term for words that represent noises, in English anyway.
Technically many examples of Japanese onomatopoeia aren't actually onomatopoeia because they don't represent sounds that actually occur, such as jiii for staring.
However, I don't think we want to get into trying to get people to figure out the difference between giseigo, giongo, gitaigo, and gijougo for tagging purposes.
Personally, I don't care for a general noise tag at all. It's practically a mandatory tag for almost any Japanese work that has sounds in it at all -- and many that don't thanks to gitaigo and gijougo, e.g. pool #1534.
P.S. We do have some poorly used tags for a few specific sounds. Of the top of my head, the only one I can think of though is kupaa.
I cannot in good conscience label these things "translated" because no actual words are present.
It would mark them as "finished", though...
There's some old discussion in forum #2465
BCI_Temp said:
Technically many examples of Japanese onomatopoeia aren't actually onomatopoeia because they don't represent sounds that actually occur, such as jiii for staring.
However, I don't think we want to get into trying to get people to figure out the difference between giseigo, giongo, gitaigo, and gijougo for tagging purposes.
Do you mean Japanese linguistics has four different traditional categories for onomatopoeic and similar vocabulary?
I stopped to think about this since Hungarian linguistics traditionally divides "onomatopoetikus" into two categories: "hangutánzo" (i.e. "sound-mimicking"), and "hangfestő" (literally "sound-painting"). Sorting out Japanese, the latter would cover stuff like jiii, and also possible verbs, adjectives etc. directly derived from such "fake onomatopoeia".
Looking into it, it turns out that modern English linguistics uses ideophones as an umbrella term -- cf. the corresponding Wikipedia article
ideophonic_sfx, anyone?
