Fanfic wank?

Hm... I must say I am a bit perplexed.

post #219084

Soon after I posted my comment, a fellow commented by quoting the word "fanfic" and merely saying "gtfo".

After that, Sir Comartemis posted a response, defending me and acknowledging my opening question. After that, I posted a response telling the first person that I was not the one who was writing the fanfic, and that LittleKuriboh, creator of Yu-Gi-Oh! The Abridged Series, writes fanfiction himself. I finished up the post by thanking Sir Comartemis for defending me, and for acknowledging my opening question.

As you can see, all quite harmless.

However, I later received some mail from a fellow by the curious name of "葉月". The mail stated that I was given a record by this fellow. The gentleman's only comment was "Keep your fanfic wank out of comments."

Perplexed, I went to the scene of the comments in question to find that the comment of the "gtfo" fellow had been deleted, as well as my response.

Now, there are several things I would not mind having answered:
First, was mentioning fanfiction really bad enough to earn me a strike on my permanent record?
Second, was it really necessary to delete two seemingly harmless comments?
Three, what is wrong with a comment that merely defends my actions, while thanking someone for defending me and acknowleding a question?
Fourth, what is wrong with a comment that voices one's opinion? Saying "gtfo" in response to the mention of fanfiction is rude, but it should not be forbidded. I feel that that fellow was free to voice his opinion, even if he went about it rudely.

I am especially confused by Sir 葉月's comment upon reporting me. I can only guess that a "fanfic wank" is when one talks about fanfiction in a favorable light. So that leads to two questions:
First, is fanfiction really hated enough by the administration of this site that anyone who mentions it is reported?
Second, if the administrators of this site are allowed to report and ban members purely due to a disagreement with personal opinions, what else are they permitted to do?

Might anyone be able to shed light on this situation? I would be eternally grateful.

Oh, do not get me wrong. I am gay.

Lost all credibility.

Not like I can say anything though.

Mods are mods --- don't expect them to be nice. Anyway, they're trusted by the administrator, and that's the only thing that matters.

But try to overlook that and understand the point of this.

The policy on comments has become stricter and stricter. Right now, the idea is that all comments are supposed to be relevant to the post. They're not a place for general discussion. In my opinion, your comment was OK, up to this point...

Oh, do not get me wrong. I am gay. My interest is purely based on an idea I have for a fanfic.

Well, this is just pointless. I mean... so what?

Piece of advice --- cut down on the big talk. It only hurts the chances of people reading and caring.

"Rule #9 of the internet: There are no real rules about moderation - enjoy your ban."

OrigamiChimera said:
Sir Comartemis
Sir 葉月
(etc)

First fanfiction, and now roleplaying? You must be really intent on getting on 葉月's bad side. ;)

Anyway, I don't think your comment was inappropriate. Maybe 葉月 read it too hastily and thought the events you mentioned were from some fanfic? You should have contacted him privately.

I think it's utterly ridiculous that this even became an issue in the comments, let alone the forum. There is too much emo drama in the comments, which is why I rarely bother to check them out. I have no idea why 葉月 felt the need to leave a neg record on you, but it wouldn't be the first time he's done that without a real reason.

葉月 was being a jerk. That being said, a negative record doesn't really mean much. It only comes into play if you want contributor status. Even when upgrading to a privileged account I don't pay much attention to it.

It can also be used to check if someone who did something bad is a repeat offender (eg you might only report him first, and ban him the second time), but the important thing is that it has no automatic effects. It's something mods can look at and evaluate at their own discretion. If someone gave you a record for no reason, it won't be considered.

LaC said: If someone gave you a record for no reason, it won't be considered.

Right. The only problem I have in weighing reports, though, is that without the ability to search comments and forum posts by user, it's hard to get context unless I "was there", which I usually am not for these little spats in the comments.

I usually link to the relevant post, although sometimes the comments have to be removed (especially in the case of spoilers), in which case, yes, you have to trust the judgement of the other mod. Which I generally would, unless there's evidence to the contrary.

Are records mod-only territory? I was always under the impression that anyone could give out a record.

No, I think all privileged users can give them. Or perhaps all users.

I tried it out. Well, at least I wasn't able to give out a record. So it must be for status privileged and up.
That's actually quite a pity. I think someone who (lets say have at least contributed something (e.g. uploaded 100 approved pics/posted over 20 post/translated stuff)) should be able to give records (at least a limited number of them).
I myself actually wanted to give two seperate records yesterday, but couldn't :/

Contributors can add records, and also delete those they added. I don't know if privileged users can.

aldeayeah said: Contributors can add records, and also delete those they added. I don't know if privileged users can.

That's probably how it should be, I think. If a regular user has an issue, alert a mod.

LaC said:
First fanfiction, and now roleplaying? You must be really intent on getting on 葉月's bad side. ;)

Anyway, I don't think your comment was inappropriate. Maybe 葉月 read it too hastily and thought the events you mentioned were from some fanfic? You should have contacted him privately.

I was not "roleplaying", Sir LaC. I merely am being polite and formal.

Far too often I see people on the internet flaming and being rude for no reason. So I try to counter this by using excessive formality and manners. To this end, I insert a "Sir" or "Ms." at the beginning of the names of others. I normally insert Japanese honorifics as well, but I felt that doing so on a site such as this would only seem offensive and n00bish.

OrigamiChimera said: Far too often I see people on the internet flaming and being rude for no reason. So I try to counter this by using excessive formality and manners.

You should realize, though, that on the internet this often has exactly the opposite effect of what you intend and instead makes you sound like you're talking down to someone. I know that's not your intention but that's how most people will read it. At the very least, they might think you're a bit odd. =P Addressing people politely can be done easily enough while still coming across as colloquial.

As to everyone's suggestions, I actually did aim to one day be a priveleged user. I intended to earn the status by contributing through posting helpful comments and adding definitions to Tags. However, thanks to Sir 葉月, it appears I shall never reach the rank of a priveleged user.

As to why I did not contact Sir 葉月 directly, the reason is complex. You see, I have a strict rule that I do not bother moderators or admins for any reason, due to the fact that they probably receive a large number of messages from n00bs regarding matters that only waste their time.

Also, after Sir 葉月 wrote me up for little apparent reason, did not have the grace to fully explain to me what I had done beyond "fanfic wank", and deleted my post, I fear that contacting him will provoke a full banning. If there is one thing I have learned from my years of message boards, it is that moderators and admins are very cantankerous. I suspect it is due to a combination of the fact that they are constantly bothered by incessant complaints and questions from n00bs, and the fact that they must appear strict so that people will not take advantage of them.

Actually, it just occured to me that the life of a moderator is most likely a very lonely life... The thought makes me pity Sir 葉月...

jxh2154 said:
You should realize, though, that on the internet this often has exactly the opposite effect of what you intend and instead makes you sound like you're talking down to someone. I know that's not your intention but that's how most people will read it. At the very least, they might think you're a bit odd. =P Addressing people politely can be done easily enough while still coming across as colloquial.

Hm... Perhaps I

jxh2154 said:
You should realize, though, that on the internet this often has exactly the opposite effect of what you intend and instead makes you sound like you're talking down to someone. I know that's not your intention but that's how most people will read it. At the very least, they might think you're a bit odd. =P Addressing people politely can be done easily enough while still coming across as colloquial.

Hm... Perhaps I should put "I am being excessively formal, not condescending" in my message board signatures?

To be honest, the concept of my formalness sounding condescending is quite strange to me. Having grown up among the mentally disabled, I barely know the meaning of "condescending".

But I still thank you for the input. Might you suggest any way I can be formal and polite without sounding condescending?

Just don't be stupid. Is it that hard?