I still think duplicates serve no purpose and should be deleted.
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memegui said:
They're not violating the rules, but they're annoying and useless and needlessly split the score of a picture.
You're not going to avoid the last one. People are going to post lower quality versions initially regardless of how you handle things, which may get high scores. Then when you post thigh higher quality version, you get a better picture with a low score. The score doesn't transfer, and when you delete a post, you'll potentially be deleting that higher score that the picture deserved along with people's favorites.
Another problem with deleting pictures is that it raises people's deleted score unfairly. The source user didn't break the rules when they posted the dupe, so why penalize them? This could become a dealbreaker when it comes members vying for promotion.
Then comes the issue with near duplicates. If an artist released an image at one resolution, then subtly changed some things and released it again at a higher quality, which gets deleted? What about censored vs uncensored images? I'm not endorsing fan uncensoring here, but since the original always trumps, there would be no point to uploading uncensored versions at all.
In short, there are many reasons to not delete duplicates. In my opinion, enough to off-balance the "they annoy memegui" factor.
There's a very good reason not to delete dupes: if someone uploads the dupe again, they'll be redirected to a post that will very likely have the copyright, character, and artist. They'll also be able to see the original version. Most dupes are probably downloaded from imageboards so chances are a given image will only have 2-3 real dupes.
piespy said:
Exact dupes can't be uploaded twice anyway.
But they can be uploaded once? There are plenty of dupes with no discernible difference from the original.
@ albert- Isn't that what the "find similar" button is for? It allows users to find the original image on danbooru without uploading anything.
Shinjidude said:
The score doesn't transfer, and when you delete a post, you'll potentially be deleting that higher score that the picture deserved along with people's favorites.
I thought scores and favorites did transfer to the parent.
Shinjidude said:
Another problem with deleting pictures is that it raises people's deleted score unfairly. The source user didn't break the rules when they posted the dupe, so why penalize them? This could become a dealbreaker when it comes members vying for promotion.
jxh also mentioned that in forum #10675, maybe the delete count should have some kind of flag that only counts deletion points if they are unapproved in 3 days or deleted for being bad.
Sorry I didn't make myself clear but I was only talking about exact duplicates, well, pseudo-exact duplicates, "duplicates" that have no discernible difference but still aren't 100% equal so aren't caught by the dupe detector (Post already exists).
albert said:
There's a very good reason not to delete dupes: if someone uploads the dupe again, they'll be redirected to a post that will very likely have the copyright, character, and artist. They'll also be able to see the original version. Most dupes are probably downloaded from imageboards so chances are a given image will only have 2-3 real dupes.
That also works if you delete the dupes, just put in the deletion reason "Duplicate of post #XXXXX", when someone uploads the same duplicate they'll have a link to the post without having it be a parent of a deleted post.
Really I just want for child posts to be "minor variations of the parent post" like it says rather than stuff you avoid because it's probably the same post.
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