One-Hour Drawing Challenge -> meta category

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BUR #4855 has been rejected.

category one-hour_drawing_challenge -> meta

Because the information that these are one-hour drawing challenge images usually lies outside the image itself. I say "usually" because there's a possibility that an artist added the hashtag to the image itself, although I cannot recall a single example from recent memory. Regardless, unless we take a hardline stance on this tag in that the hashtag or some other visual indicator must appear on the image, then the tag itself must be meta.

nonamethanks said:

I'm prone to disagreeing because if this is meta then sketch should be too for the same reason.

Not really, a sketch can be visible even when not explicitly said by the author - take the background of post #4388626 for instance.

That said, i'm against it because the tag is an event, and as far as i know events should either be general tags or pools. Making it a meta tag would set a bad precedent and open up a terrible can of worms.
I wouldn't be against turning the tag into a pool though.

Username_Hidden said:

That said, i'm against it because the tag is an event, and as far as i know events should either be general tags or pools. Making it a meta tag would set a bad precedent and open up a terrible can of worms.

This too.

Username_Hidden said:
I wouldn't be against turning the tag into a pool though.

It's an objective concept, it has no place being a pool. Also good luck dealing with those dozen translated tags as a pool.

thelieutenant said:

Sketches are a style of drawing, whereas the drawing challenge is motivation for the drawing existing. Most of the ones I see aren't different than the artists normal style, just a little more unfinished. If commission is meta, then this should be too.

anniversary also refers to the initial motivation for the most part, that's not the best case for it being a meta tag. And while we have to rely on the claims of the artist to assure us this is a 'one-hour drawing challenge' the image could also be labeled 60_minute_drawing and then it would seem clearer why it's a general tag, describing the illustration per se, while we use meta tags to describe technical details outside of the art process itself.

I also can't most of the time tell apart whether an image is a digitization of highly skilled traditional art from a digital drawing and a faithful digital rendition of traditional media from said media. Yet the respective tags would still be a description of the illustration even though it's not apparent to the eye

Respecting commission I consider it in the source side of things.

nonamethanks said:

This too.

It's an objective concept, it has no place being a pool. Also good luck dealing with those dozen translated tags as a pool.

Plenty of pools are objective concepts, dare I say the majority of them. And for the ones that aren't, frankly, I don't see the need for their existence most of the time. "Perfect feet", really?

One similar example, pool #16083: Touhou - 16th Popularity Poll Pictures. It's just pictures of a (then) current event, featuring the characters. Some of them included references to the character's placement on the picture, many didn't, and the only thing tying them together is just the post's commentary mentioning the event. I don't see how that's any different than a 60-minute challenge.

indexador2 said:

Plenty of pools are objective concepts, dare I say the majority of them. And for the ones that aren't, frankly, I don't see the need for their existence most of the time. "Perfect feet", really?

One similar example, pool #16083: Touhou - 16th Popularity Poll Pictures. It's just pictures of a (then) current event, featuring the characters. Some of them included references to the character's placement on the picture, many didn't, and the only thing tying them together is just the post's commentary mentioning the event. I don't see how that's any different than a 60-minute challenge.

There's been talks of turning contest pools into tags before. It's just that there's too many of them and nobody is willing to go through the pain of submitting BURs.

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