Tag Discussion: single vs. one

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While doing a simple tag fix on post #488087, I noticed a bit of a discrepancy.

When referring to a singular article of an item, is it preferrable to use "one" or "single"?

single_glove has 77, while one_glove has 5. Naturally that's a low enough number that I could just go an edit them all over anyway, but...
single_thighhigh appears to be aliased to one_thighhigh. So even if I do such an edit, we still run into discrepancy.

Regardless of which method is preferrable, this is also a note for an alias request, either...
single_glove -> one_glove
or
one_glove -> single_glove

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I'll go +1 for one_* for the alias, greater quantity, and the fact it's much faster for mental counting. Yes it's only a single count, but that clicks that much faster in people's heads.

First off, I imagine the following implication might be wise.
one_elbow_glove -> one_glove
(Or the single equivalent if we go that route)

Related note.
None of these have actual wiki entries yet, so we have no documented specification on usage. The general usage I'm observing is that the character clearly only has one such item worn (or just has one such, in the case of wings), and the matching counterpart is not present. This should be visually distinguishable in the picture itself, since that tends to be the primary criterium for tags.
post #287706, as an example, yes she's wearing one glove but I can't even see her other hand so it's not exactly visible that her other hand does not have a glove. It's been long enough since Hellsing that I can't recall such an element anyway, so that actually plays into a factor.
A character who does wear two *, but only one of which is visible, definitely should not get the one_* tag series. In the case that a character does have one, say, glove, then if only one hand is visible, whether it is the glove hand or not, then it probably shouldn't get the one_glove tag. That's my take on it.
If we do take this definition of one_*, once we come to a consensus on which adjective to use for counting then I can skid through all the pictures to remove the tag where it doesn't apply.

I prefer the single_* tags myself. To me it gets the point across more that the image depicts a character with only one single glove with the intention that the character only has one and no other. If you aren't sure if they might have a 2nd one then you weren't supposed to tag it.

I'm not really in agreement with you saying one clicks in peoples heads faster than the other. If you saw either one, you'd know exactly what it means from the tag. If it's about ease of typing the tag, that doesn't necessarily mean the shorter tag should be the default. It just means that the shorter tag should definitely be aliased to the preferred tag if it isn't the preferred tag.

Also I disagree with the one_elbow_glove -> one_glove implication. The one_elbow_glove could probably be handled by a one_glove elbow_glove search, so I question the need for the one_elbow_glove tag all together.

Koakuma said:
I imagine the following implication might be wise.
one_elbow_glove -> one_glove
(Or the single equivalent if we go that route)

No; several of those images involve one_elbow_glove and one other glove, so you want to be careful with an implication like that.

r0d3n7z said:
No; several of those images involve one_elbow_glove and one other glove, so you want to be careful with an implication like that.

Ah, true, I hadn't thought of that.

NWF Renim said:
[..]If it's about ease of typing[..]

No, it isn't about ease of typing for the very exact reason you gave. The alias system has been very helpful in that regard.

I've actually come to like the asymmetrical clothing tag proposed in forum #26879, though. Keeps things from being overly expansive as well as fits what I feel the concept is better.

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