Loaded interior should implicate interior

BUR #40445 is pending approval.

create implication loaded_interior -> interior

loaded interiors are not always indoors, but they ARE always interiors. They should be implicated as such.

This may also be a hot take but im curious why indoors does not always implicate interior. Bc imo it probably should, unless we yeet the interior tag completely, which I would very much not like to do because again, you can have interiors without it being indoors (like inside a camp tent, or inside of a car for ex), and so it is helpful to have that still distinguished as such imo. I guess the only thing is it would be a huge effort to go and backtag all of that but.....loaded_interior implying interior is imo a much more manageable project to garden. Thoughts?

Interior doesn't seem to implicate indoors, is there a reason for that which would prevent this from going through?

zetsubousensei said:

Interior doesn't seem to implicate indoors, is there a reason for that which would prevent this from going through?

Can you restate this question in a different way, I'm not quite understanding

fairyboobles said:

Can you restate this question in a different way, I'm not quite understanding

Interior doesn't implicate indoors, is the reason for that something that would block this implication as well?

Unbreakable said:

Interior doesn't implicate indoors, is the reason for that something that would block this implication as well?

I'm guessing because you can have interiors without it being indoors, which is the point I was trying to make

I think what happened is I was already front loading my argument for what I expected the response to be which would be something along the lines of "but loaded interiors should instead be implicated to indoors bc indoors is much more widely used tag". But in that scenario, loaded interior posts like this one would then be wrongly tagged as indoors post #9189008

I got ahead of myself and I think I may have confused it though. My request was to implicate interior tag when a post is tagged as "loaded_interior", thats it. I think this would make sense and would account for all sorts of loaded interiors even if they arent indoors, like the post example above.

I also made the argument/hot take as an aside that when a post is tagged as indoors, it should also implicate the tag interior. Not the other way around as is being asked here. But that is not actually what the BUR is requesting, just an extra semi related hot take that seemed relevant to bring up while we are talking about the interior tag.

My point is that if interior is being kept seperate from indoors on purpose to avoid redundancy then implying a bunch of bedroom posts to interior via loaded interior could cause accidental tag pollution.

zetsubousensei said:

My point is that if interior is being kept seperate from indoors on purpose to avoid redundancy then implying a bunch of bedroom posts to interior via loaded interior could cause accidental tag pollution.

but you asked why Interior doesn't seem to implicate indoors, when I was making the argument for the other way around of indoors implicating interior instead, which is why I was confused by your question. If there is a reason this isn't the case I would also love to know, my assumption was because interior is a very small tag whilst indoors is a very large and populated one.

So yes, that is the question, is there a reason why this wouldn't be okay or work out? bc I would also like to know as I think this implication I requested above makes sense.

fairyboobles said:

but you asked why Interior doesn't seem to implicate indoors, when I was making the argument for the other way around of indoors implicating interior instead, which is why I was confused by your question. If there is a reason this isn't the case I would also love to know, my assumption was because interior is a very small tag whilst indoors is a very large and populated one.

So yes, that is the question, is there a reason why this wouldn't be okay or work out? bc I would also like to know as I think this implication I requested above makes sense.

What I'm saying is that if a post shouldn't be tagged with BOTH interior and indoors then this is a flawed BUR because it will give the 1000s of posts in the tag both tags.

Right now " loaded_interior -interior indoors" is 1361 posts.

If Interior should be used only for vehicles and whatnot then those would be mistags. I'm assuming by the tags not being implicated they are mutually exclusive, but I'm not sure which is why I posed the question.

alright, i'll bite. what's the purpose of interior actually meant to be? from what i'm seeing looking through the tag most of its contents could be tagged indoors, from outside or vehicle interior (along with any of the more specific vehicle tags) instead.

the only unique use case i can think of this tag right now is for structures that may not be semantically considered "indoors" by some, but still count as an interior of sorts, like post #4178285, or some train station platforms like in post #6363183, or caves as mentioned on the interior wiki. but then again maybe there's something huge that i'm missing here.

zetsubousensei said:

What I'm saying is that if a post shouldn't be tagged with BOTH interior and indoors then this is a flawed BUR because it will give the 1000s of post in the tag both tags.

Right now " loaded_interior -interior indoors" is 1361 posts.

If Interior should be used only for vehicles and whatnot then those would be mistags. I'm assuming by the tags not being implicated they are mutually exclusive, but I'm not sure which is why I posed the question.

what? im confused, no one ever said a post cant be tagged with both indoors and interior?
Interior should not only be used for vehicles interiors, there are many more kinds of interiors than that, including indoors. But theres other kinds of interiors that arent indoors, including some loaded_interior posts, hence why im making the argument to implicate as such.
I dont think they are mutually exclusive, nothing in the wikis suggests such. Interior tag is helpful to have though, it can blanket both indoors and other types of interiors. that is the point i was trying to make, but I also am not trying to defend a bur to implicate indoors to interior rn, just loaded interior to interior.

BUR #40460 is pending approval.

deprecate interior

This seems like a bad and redundant tag actually.

I thought it was for stuff like caves and trains, but all those have more specific tags and most of what is in interior should be indoors.