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Algasir said:
Any source is better than no source at all.
True.
Or perhaps more accurately, from a researcher's point of view, any correct source information, however vague, is better than no source information at all.
And obsolete links can be surprisingly useful in some cases. There are Internet archives saving copies of pages at various points of time, after all.
Algasir said: Any source is better than no source at all.
EDIT: Also, the Image Board source is automatically added for images that are uploaded from certain image boards (like 4chan, though I don't know any others beyond that).
Yes, this. Just leave it. It lets us know that the image came from an imageboard and that asking the uploader for a source is pointless.
jxh2154 said:
Yes, this. Just leave it. It lets us know that the image came from an imageboard and that asking the uploader for a source is pointless.
Well, not necessarily. It just means it was uploaded from there, but the vast majority of images posted on imageboards did not originate there. Discounting well-known exceptions such as drawfag and oekaki, they're uploads from somewhere else themselves.
You missed the point. It still strongly implies that, to quote jxh2154, "asking the uploader for a source is pointless", because if he knew the source he'd have uploaded it from there and not from the imageboard.
jxh2154 didn't say that the imageboard was to be construed as actual source or something.
The artist request wiki has had "Do not use this tag if there is a source available, such as the artist's homepage, blog, pixiv, etc" for 2+ years. Is this a hard/consensus rule?
I've been told to not use the tag, though in my situation, the source was twitter and the artist didn't have a tag yet on Danbooru. As such, I left the artist field blank because I didn't trust myself to name the artist properly.
I personally think it should be in use regardless of source, with the exception being when the artist can be found using the Find Artist button.
Borrator said:
It seems to me that the tag is meant for when you actually don't know who the artist is, and things like knowing who he is but not being sure how to romanise it aren't really meant for that tag
But if you don't use the tag for those kinds of situations as well, I don't see the point. The only way to get at those images would be to search arttags:0, which also include artist request, so the end result is the same, that they'd get stuck together with all the regular artist request images. You could always block the tag from the search, but you could do the same through the artist request tag by using source:none.
CodeKyuubi said:
But if you don't use the tag for those kinds of situations as well, I don't see the point. The only way to get at those images would be to search arttags:0, which also include artist request, so the end result is the same, that they'd get stuck together with all the regular artist request images. You could always block the tag from the search, but you could do the same through the artist request tag by using source:none.
In other words, artist_request is a useless tag already covered by metatags and should not be used.
The only situation in which arttags:0 wouldn't work is collaborations where some but not all artists are known, but we have collaboration_request for those cases.
If someone doesn't know how to romanize an artist's name they can post in topic #8199, which is more likely to get a response than using the artist_request tag is.
I once used artist request on an ugoira I had downloaded and converted before it getting deleted because I was too lazy to search for a service that could get the artist by using the post number. What I'm saying is, the source field wasn't empty, but since it linked to a "deleted work" page I didn't really know who the artist was.
Btw someone actually found it for me the same day. Rather, someone found it faster than me getting around to seeing if saucenao can save me
Borrator said:
I once used artist request on an ugoira I had downloaded and converted before it getting deleted because I was too lazy to search for a service that could get the artist by using the post number. What I'm saying is, the source field wasn't empty, but since it linked to a "deleted work" page I didn't really know who the artist was.
Btw someone actually found it for me the same day. Rather, someone found it faster than me getting around to seeing if saucenao can save me
Saucenao works with ugoira, you just need to keep in mind that it doesn't support uploading webms directly so you instead need to upload Danbooru's thumbnail of the webm for it to work.
