Border and Frame differences

Is there a known difference in usage between these two tags?

Frame:

Used when an image appears to be bordered by a photo frame and/or matte.

Border:

When a picture has a border along its sides.

Some posts from both tags chosen at random:

post #1068393
post #1010806
post #1066435
post #1064513

Other than metaphysical outlining,there seems to be other possible uses for the 2 tags;such as

Border being used for the physically-present border (with gates,sentries and the like.Similar to post #1010806)

Frame used for depicting actual picture-frames (in-use)

As far as I understand it, border generally refers to solid color borders around the outside of an image, while a "frame" is actually patterned/textured/drawn with detail.

I'm more interested in the distinction between border and windowboxed, at any rate.

Aristocrat said:
I'm more interested in the distinction between border and windowboxed, at any rate.

i'm a little lost too how to use windowboxed. how exactly the 'thickness' should be? should the 'bars' be all black?

how about post #1001087? the left and right sides are thin but the top and bottom are thick. is this enough to be tagged as windowboxed?

some of the posts fall in border like post #740037. but in case we ever clean this and become stricter, i assume there will be a handful left?

Bump as clarification has not been provided yet.

(Super thread necromancy instead of making a new topic)

In addition to the above,

Should there be any implications between those tags?

Some suggestions:

create implication pillarboxed -> border

create implication letterboxed -> border

create implication windowboxed -> border
OR
create implication windowboxed -> frame

One drawback to any of the above, is the ambiguity of the frame & border tags, since the former hint to something more stylized (post #1448642, post #1327292), and the latter less so (post #1473249, post #1454731)

I'm confused a bit by them as well. I tend to use border for thin lines and frame for more noticeable framing, including physical details and thick white borders (that a character often sticks out beyond).

I've also seen framed and framed image. I think I've accidentally contributed 11 out of 13 images to the former due to unnoticed typos. Whoops. Time to alias framed -> frame?

BCI_Temp said: I'm confused a bit by them as well. I tend to use border for thin lines and frame for more noticeable framing, including physical details and thick white borders (that a character often sticks out beyond).

At the moment this is the definition I'd use.