Artist alias request thread

NekoAria said:

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The most important thing is that "create rename" perfectly matches the situation of the ambiguous artist name you mentioned above, just like what I did earlier:

rename fujita -> fujita_ichi

artist #547770: created yesterday, terrible ambiguous name that isn't even the actual name as used by the artist.
artist #548171: created yesterday, ambiguous name in need of a qualifier
artist #547946: created yesterday, bad qualifier

The ones I pinged you about: existed for almost a year, not ambiguous.

If an artist tag has existed for some time on Danbooru, chances are they are credited under that name outside Danbooru or people have the tag in their bookmarks or blacklist. An alias makes sure people looking for the artist under the old name get redirected to the new one.
If an artist tag was created yesterday there's not really a point in creating an alias, and if the tag is ambiguous then an alias should not be created.
For small recently created tags I find a manual rename to be faster and there's not really a need to have a record of the rename in the forum since the tag isn't likely to be referenced outside Danbooru at that point. For larger or long-existing tags in need of a rename, I think creating a BUR as you suggested is better because it makes sure you don't forget deleted, banned or blacklisted posts and there is a permanent record of the rename in the forum with a reason for the rename (findable from the "discussions" link in the sidebar when searching the tag)

Nameless_Contributor said:

artist #547770: created yesterday, terrible ambiguous name that isn't even the actual name as used by the artist.
artist #548171: created yesterday, ambiguous name in need of a qualifier
artist #547946: created yesterday, bad qualifier

The ones I pinged you about: existed for almost a year, not ambiguous.

If an artist tag has existed for some time on Danbooru, chances are they are credited under that name outside Danbooru or people have the tag in their bookmarks or blacklist. An alias makes sure people looking for the artist under the old name get redirected to the new one.
If an artist tag was created yesterday there's not really a point in creating an alias, and if the tag is ambiguous then an alias should not be created.
For small recently created tags I find a manual rename to be faster and there's not really a need to have a record of the rename in the forum since the tag isn't likely to be referenced outside Danbooru at that point. For larger or long-existing tags in need of a rename, I think creating a BUR as you suggested is better because it makes sure you don't forget deleted, banned or blacklisted posts and there is a permanent record of the rename in the forum with a reason for the rename (findable from the "discussions" link in the sidebar when searching the tag)

First, I want to clarify that I never thought your previous advice to use BUR was wrong.

However, I do find this differential treatment concerning. While I appreciate you explaining why many people prefer using "alias abc -> def" over "rename abc -> def", the issue remains that the criteria you've outlined now weren't clearly communicated before.

The distinction between "new tags" vs "established tags" makes sense in principle, but it creates a gray area where decisions become subjective. What constitutes "recently created" - one day, one week? What makes a name "sufficiently ambiguous" to warrant immediate manual intervention rather than following standard procedures?

I think the real issue here is consistency in applying these standards. When you advised me against manual operations a year ago, these nuanced criteria weren't mentioned. It would be helpful if these guidelines could be documented more clearly so that all users understand when different approaches are appropriate.

Thank you for taking the time to explain your reasoning - it does help clarify the thought process behind these decisions.

BUR #43482 has been approved by @WRS.

create alias 0980kj -> hulyeon83994

Same artist

zeronone98 said:

BUR #43482 has been approved by @WRS.

create alias 0980kj -> hulyeon83994

Same artist

I believe you created the wrong BUR. It should be "hulyeon83994 -> 0980kj", as the latter is their main account for posting artworks.

Or maybe we need someone who understands Korean to check if this artist has more suitable naming candidates.

@AkaringoP You seem to understand Korean. You might be the right person for this.

BUR #43483 has been approved by @NekoAria.

create alias n_(mmi) -> nn_nmxo

Same artist

The bulk update request #43483 (forum #365355) has been approved by @NekoAria.

NekoAria said:

I believe you created the wrong BUR. It should be "hulyeon83994 -> 0980kj", as the latter is their main account for posting artworks.

Or maybe we need someone who understands Korean to check if this artist has more suitable naming candidates.

@AkaringoP You seem to understand Korean. You might be the right person for this.

The hulyeon83994 account was created later than the 0980kj account, but it seems to be used as a communication account, frequently interacting with other users (e.g., through RTs).

Honestly, when I see duplicate accounts, I usually just move them into the artist tag of one existing account and delete the other. So, I'm not sure if my approach will be helpful to this thread..

BTW I am not very good at Korean.

BUR #43488 has been approved by @Obst.

create alias user_ydyh4577 -> bara_niku_(ydyh4577)

Stacc name.

The bulk update request #43488 (forum #365381) has been approved by @Obst.

BUR #43489 has been approved by @CommentaryRequest.

create alias shakenikomi_purin -> shakepuri_purin

Same artist

The bulk update request #43489 (forum #365389) has been approved by @CommentaryRequest.

BUR #43495 has been approved by @Bernkastel83.

create alias user_cyda8774 -> aquamei

Same artist for both entries based on common Twitter account, aliasing newer entry to older entry.

The bulk update request #43495 (forum #365422) has been approved by @Bernkastel83.

BUR #43496 has been approved by @alexr05.

create alias cream2021045172 -> laylayhappy

same artist

The bulk update request #43496 (forum #365428) has been approved by @alexr05.

BUR #43497 has been approved by @wanbansui.

create alias lrc520131418340 -> ._yao_yizhi_fa_._hao_ma

Same artist.

The bulk update request #43497 (forum #365431) has been approved by @wanbansui.

The bulk update request #43482 (forum #365349) has been approved by @WRS.

This is fine since both accounts are going to appear in the entry to begin with and the alias will redirect. It can be changed in the future if it's problematic.

You don't have to think too hard when it comes to dated tags, it largely comes down to vibes and discretion within reason. The only real issue is when you're aliasing a very old tag and/or one with a lot of artist history to a duplicate that shouldn't have been created in the first place. I don't bother checking even 2 years apart and just pick to alias to whichever one is their preferred name. There will never be real consistency with something like this and there's no need to think too hard about it. Someone will probably fix it anyway if it happens to be wrong.

The one thing I do not do is manually rename tags though if any more than one day has passed and there's more than two posts under the tag. Nameless might do it but I don't. It goes to a BUR for me. Ergo what I mean by there won't be consistency. We're just expected to use best judgement outside of what's in the original post.

BUR #43498 has been approved by @Unbreakable.

create alias torako778 -> torako_(toramaru)

Duplicate entry created by a blue user.