Too bad they gimped her in their crossover manga. :/ A minor godess turned monstrous beast taken out by black keys and a conceptual weapons that damages undead.
cd_young said: Too bad they gimped her in their crossover manga. :/ A minor godess turned monstrous beast taken out by black keys and a conceptual weapons that damages undead.
Wow that really is gimping. Servants are pretty much unaffected by Black Keys from what I remember.
warellis said: Wow that really is gimping. Servants are pretty much unaffected by Black Keys from what I remember.
Heracles Berserker was beaten by Shiki's 17 cut execution, as in he used his Eyes, and his regular knife to dice a Servant who's immune to A rank and lower NOBLE PHANTASMS.
cd_young said: Heracles Berserker was beaten by Shiki's 17 cut execution, as in he used his Eyes, and his regular knife to dice a Servant who's immune to A rank and lower NOBLE PHANTASMS.
He's immune to B-rank and lower anything, regardless of if its a Noble Phantasm or not. Similarly, he is susceptible to anything A-rank or better, regardless of if it's a Noble Phantasm or not.
balmung60 said: He's immune to B-rank and lower anything, regardless of if its a Noble Phantasm or not. Similarly, he is susceptible to anything A-rank or better, regardless of if it's a Noble Phantasm or not.
Right right, I got the rank wrong, but Godhand would develop an immunity to whatever killed him regardless.
That stuff is why I just hate that doujin series. I really wanted to like it, I mean the idea of the Tsukihime and Fate cast crossing over sounded great but then it turned out that it's just hugely biased in favor of the Tsukihime cast. I mean Dear God, it's been a while since I read it but could the Fate cast do ANYTHING? I seem to remember that every time they tried to do something they would just end up being jobbers and then the Tsukihime cast would come in and easily beat whatever problem they were having.
At least if it was Ryougi Shiki I could understand (even before Nasu came out in said it was possible for her to cut Servants) but Tohno? Tohno can barely use his eyes at all without killing himself
That stuff is why I just hate that doujin series. I really wanted to like it, I mean the idea of the Tsukihime and Fate cast crossing over sounded great but then it turned out that it's just hugely biased in favor of the Tsukihime cast. I mean Dear God, it's been a while since I read it but could the Fate cast do ANYTHING? I seem to remember that every time they tried to do something they would just end up being jobbers and then the Tsukihime cast would come in and easily beat whatever problem they were having.
At least if it was Ryougi Shiki I could understand (even before Nasu came out in said it was possible for her to cut Servants) but Tohno? Tohno can barely use his eyes at all without killing himself
Never mind that Berserker is capable of swining his stone axe so fast it creates shockwaves that can tear apart the concrete beneath his feet. He should literally have been too fast for Shiki to even react to him before he splatted the kid all over the place.
And the fight between Rider and Ciel was a joke. Rider is considered a strong Servant. Caster is considered weak without massive prep. Nasu states Ciel needs massive prep and back-up from a high-ranking member of the Church, whose supposed to have some ability that's good for fighting mages, to stand a chance of beating Caster.
About the only FsN characters who didn't get gimped were Assassin and Gilgamesh Koujirou made Roa look like a fool (one of the most satisfying parts of the entire corssover) and even Nrvnqsr respected him. And of course Gil just one-shotted Nrvnqsr, but even then it was silly. Gilgamesh doesn't bust out Ea unless he respects you or he's cornered to the point where he has no choice. Neither was the case in his one-sided curbstomping of Chaos.
Even the Tsukihime characters who couldn't fight very well (or at all) acted contemptuous of the FsN cast.
I love the Tsukihime cast far more than the FSN cast, and even I was annoyed at how terribad the abilities of each character were portrayed. Yeah, Shiki's a badass. He still sucks compared to the majority of the Nasuverse.
