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  • ID: 1781343
  • Uploader: Saladofstones »
  • Date: almost 11 years ago
  • Size: 77.7 KB .jpg (600x550) »
  • Source: Imageboard
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  • Score: 4
  • Favorites: 13
  • Status: Deleted

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This post was deleted for the following reason:

Unapproved in three days after returning to moderation queue (over 10 years ago)
vivian james (4chan and 1 more) drawn by drawfag
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    Saladofstones
    over 10 years ago
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    I don't see how the caption ruins the value of the inking. Just ignore it and its still good.

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    NWSiaCB
    over 10 years ago
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    Saladofstones said:

    I don't see how the caption ruins the value of the inking. Just ignore it and its still good.

    Without context and judging it purely on the aesthetic merits, this is a fairly crude and quick sketch, the kind that normally gets deleted.

    Also, I'm not sure what you mean by "fine for a drawfag-based sketch". Why are the standards lower if it's "drawfag-based"?

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    Saladofstones
    over 10 years ago
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    Sketches in general aren't on the same standards as regular images to me because the rate of work.

    The issue is more that the flagging reason is very weak. If there are separate issues with the quality of the sketch that means that it is so extreme as to require flagging then do so with the appropriate reason.

    Also this isn't a badly done scan of an image someone made to have it colored here. The issues with that post are far greater than it being a sketch.

    Its also a bad sketch and a pretty bad picture.

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    NWSiaCB
    over 10 years ago
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    Saladofstones said:

    Sketches in general aren't on the same standards as regular images to me because the rate of work.

    The issue is more that the flagging reason is very weak. If there are separate issues with the quality of the sketch that means that it is so extreme as to require flagging then do so with the appropriate reason.

    Also this isn't a badly done scan of an image someone made to have it colored here. The issues with that post are far greater than it being a sketch.

    Its also a bad sketch and a pretty bad picture.

    I am only responding to your comment (and appeal). I was not the one who flagged it, and if I were, I would have made a different argument.

    To quote from the forum thread, however,

    OOZ662 said:

    The few times I've seen that happen it was less a case that the person succeeded in some kind of "holy war" but rather that the images weren't really of sufficient quality to begin with regardless of how little or much of a dickbag the flagger was in the reason box. Though in clicking through your example I don't see how "terrible art" and "disgusting without enough quality to redeem it" are abusive of the rules.

    During the Sukedai thing, when I was trying to point out that the reason so many of that one artist's works were being flagged had to do with uproar over a single image the artist had done spreading to other works that artist had done, the response was that, "the reasoning in the flag does not matter, the flag simply puts it back into the moderation queue." I was told that in terms of pure artistic quality, that artwork was not good enough to be on Danbooru. (I argued, and I have seen you argue that there is a reason to apply different standards to a comic or doujin than pure artwork, but I could not convince the janitors involved of that.)

    And yes, the (appropriately) deleted post I linked to had much more wrong with it than just being a simple sketch, however, it's level of detail is roughly analogous to this one.

    Being a low-detail, smallish monochrome sketch wouldn't be disqualifying in a comic or doujin, but the content isn't anime-related, so you ask to ignore the content. It's my argument that, devoid of that content, it doesn't stand as pure artwork.

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    OOZ662
    over 10 years ago
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    NWSiaCB said:

    I have seen you argue that there is a reason to apply different standards to a comic or doujin than pure artwork

    Pretty sneaky of you dragging a quote from the forum out into a comments section. Fortunately, I live in the Comments feed.

    I can't recall having made that argument, and if I did I don't know why. I agree with the "rule" that single posts from a generally-accepted series should not be deleted on artistic merit or else there'd be holes in the series. If a whole series is artistically subpar, nuke it. I stopped uploading pool #7522 because I felt the art was getting more and more sketchy, on top of the sinking writing quality. Honestly, I almost feel like flagging the thing.

    On a side note, you'd think a Janitor would understand the Appeals system.

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