Meh. And besides stealing Touhou memes and using generic anime girls, can Kancolle do anything original at all, or is it asking too much from a bunch of xenophobic cash-grabbers?
Meh. And besides stealing Touhou memes and using generic anime girls, can Kancolle do anything original at all, or is it asking too much from a bunch of xenophobic cash-grabbers?
Nah, because the game in itself is pretty boring. They're at least smart enough to throw touhou things in for the many fans that are fans of both.
Besides, it's the fandom that works with the personality and such of the generic yuugumo class girls they throw in. Blame them, since if it's not ripping off touhou then we'll get DMM's normal R-18 crap.
Besides, it's not that DMM is xenophobic (well, not entirely) but just that they have too many R-18 related crap that will get their ass thrown in court if they open themselves outside of Japan. The company want to be careful. Although I won't deny that they are cash-grabbing bastards, but what company isn't nowadays.
It probably has also something to do with the ship's name (Morning Frost), since it relates to Cirno's ability.
Suzukaza also do the same thing with her rowdy Edokko personality. She also have blue hair, claim to be stronger than 100 ships and quite childish compare to the rest of the Shiratsuyu. Also, the name means cool breeze.
Shame she isn't popular enough for people to make the resemblance.
She just happens to be as boisterous as Cirno so the comparison came naturally to the artist. There are very few comparable girls bettwen both franchise.
Meh. And besides stealing Touhou memes and using generic anime girls, can Kancolle do anything original at all, or is it asking too much from a bunch of xenophobic cash-grabbers?
Let me toss that question back to you, slightly reworded to replace Touhou with "some other" and Kancolle with "Touhou".
Let me toss that question back to you, slightly reworded to replace Touhou with "some other" and Kancolle with "Touhou".
now stop before more get into the frenzy.
It's inevitable since most of the circles who originally works on Touhou passes to KanColl, so some memes were recicled for the fanbase. The artist has their own right to choose, but the fanbase is the 'one to blame', about some of the popular memes like 'The explosion ending', for example.
About Touhou memes, most of them are because ZUN, he likes a lot JJBA, and he never denied that, even the fanbase and the artist uses a lot that comparision, specially with HnK. I think it was inevitable the fact that some artist passes from one game to another, and recicles some ideas, but also the fact of 'new and old' fans who like both of them use the same memes and ideas to make KanColl more enjoyable, because its new and keeps gaining fans from the whole world.
And who died and gave you the right to order me, exactly? Who do you think you are? You want to give me orders? Sign my paycheck. 500$ a month.
And last time I checked, ZUN wasn't xenophobic, and he wasn't exactly a cash-grabber either. So not only you are arrogant and allow yourself to order people around, but you're also dishonest and wrong. That's a lot.
But hey, why should I expect anything nice from a kancolle fanboy?
And who died and gave you the right to order me, exactly? Who do you think you are? You want to give me orders? Sign my paycheck. 500$ a month.
And last time I checked, ZUN wasn't xenophobic, and he wasn't exactly a cash-grabber either. So not only you are arrogant and allow yourself to order people around, but you're also dishonest and wrong. That's a lot.
But hey, why should I expect anything nice from a kancolle fanboy?
Dude, calm your tits. No need to get on other people's throat for liking something else. I love both Kancolle and Touhou but I won't lie when I say I don't feel a bit annoyed that everything is all Kancolle, Kancolle nowadays. No need to get mad at other people for liking something else, that's just immature. We're not on 4chan.
DMM is a company that host R-18 things. Of course they'll want to keep it within the confines of Japan as well as want to make money. The thing about Kancolle is that it's pretty different from their other games because you don't actually have to pay to play. If you see any of their other games, those fucking things are a ripoff. I had a friend who played Strike Virgins, another game from them that's similar to Kancolle but with plane girls, and he wasn't able to get anything without dropping a crap-load of cash.
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Dude, calm your tits. No need to get on other people's throat for liking something else. I love both Kancolle and Touhou but I won't lie when I say I don't feel a bit annoyed that everything is all Kancolle, Kancolle nowadays. No need to get mad at other people for liking something else, that's just immature. We're not on 4chan.
What "tits" are you talking about? Where exactly do you see me jumping at anyone's throat? I simply stated how annoying it was that Kancolle would steal Touhou memes, and my disappointement that such a cash-grabbing society would seek to surf on Touhou's popularity, especially given that their behaviour is the exact opposite of ZUN's, with their "no-foreigner" policy. You people are the one who attacked me and jumped at my throat because I dared to state my dislike of that game, and when I try to defend myself from some guy trying to order me around (as well as the other dude who called me a "holy fucking shit"), I suddenly become a "immature 4channer".
And somehow, everything's my fault because despite being attacked for not liking kancolle, it's my fault because I'm somehow "getting mad at other people for liking something else". Despite, as I said, just stating my annoyance at Kancolle trying pathetically to surf over Touhou's popularity for cash-grabbing purpose.
EDIT : and while I'm at it, what with the notes? Usually you hover your mouse over them to read them.
I'm just saying calm down is all. Nobody is attacking you for not liking Kancolle. It's just that you're being a bit too...angry with the whole Touhou meme thing. DMM themselves didn't do anything but hire people to draw their girls. The one that's using the "meme" is the artist here. The company itself have nothing to do with how the fans portray their characters.
It's not that they're surfing on Touhou's popularity. Touhou is touhou. Kancolle is Kancolle. The only thing similar is the big fanbase and amount of art coming in. I understand that you might feel annoyed that Kancolle seem to be grabbing alot of attention but trends are trends. People like to follow things that are popular. Nobody is saying it's your fault, but...just calm down.
Also, those are the new notes that was out of testing recently. It's pretty nice but not great since there's a size limit for the box. Good for reading via mobile devices.
I'm just saying calm down is all. Nobody is attacking you for not liking Kancolle. It's just that you're being a bit too...angry with the whole Touhou meme thing. DMM themselves didn't do anything but hire people to draw their girls. The one that's using the "meme" is the artist here. The company itself have nothing to do with how the fans portray their characters.
Yes I mad. I don't mind Kancolle at all, I sometimes like reading some Kancolle stuff, but I don't like having Kancolle shoved down my throat when I'm looking for Touhou. How would you like if you had some lemonparty in the middle of a perfectly fine lesbian movie? And how would you like if, at the second you start expressing your annoyance, you get attacked, insulted, and ordered to shut up by a bunch of guys that you don't even know, because they like it so much they think everyone should like it too?
Keo said: t's not that they're surfing on Touhou's popularity. Touhou is touhou. Kancolle is Kancolle. The only thing similar is the big fanbase and amount of art coming in. I understand that you might feel annoyed that Kancolle seem to be grabbing alot of attention but trends are trends. People like to follow things that are popular. Nobody is saying it's your fault, but...just calm down.
Kancolle has a "big fanbase"? That's strange, since last time I checked, it was still closed to foreigners (meanwhile I'm fairly certain Touhou has more foreigners fans -that includes the west as well as the rest of Asia- than Japanese fans, while ZUN said he doesn't mind foreigners playing his games), and still had a small amount of art (I'm speaking about 100% kancolle art, not the cross-over arts). Also doesn't help that every comment not saying that Kancolle is the 8th Wonders is downvoted to oblivion. What is that, reddit? Is there a "if you don't have anything nice, shut up" policy here? Also, you should really drop the condescending tone. We're not kids here, all you're going to do is convince me to not take you seriously.
Keo said: Also, those are the new notes that was out of testing recently. It's pretty nice but not great since there's a size limit for the box. Good for reading via mobile devices.
Only works for that picture, as far as I saw. Didn't saw it working on any other picture, but yeah it's pretty slick.
Just...calm down. I apologize for whatever negative feelings you might have gotten from above but getting angry over such little things is pointless. Also, you can always try blacklisting Kancolle, although that is extreme. This way you don't have to see Kancolle on your search.
There's ways to play the game. DMM closed the game to foreigners but they don't mind people playing via Proxy and such. Many people such as myself use API and such to play. Also, you don't have to play the game to join the fanbase. I speak from experience when I say that I know most of the touhou fan never even played a touhou game before.
The notes seem to only be open to builders and such, I believe. I think they're still working on to make it better, I don't know.
Keep your condescending tone, and I'm going to end up thinking Kancolle fans are as bad as FromSoySauce when it comes to talking with people with different opinions.
Also, you don't have to play the game to join the fanbase. I speak from experience when I say that I know most of the touhou fan never even played a touhou game before.
You're too kind. Except that unlike most of the fanbase, I actually like to know what I'm talking about before pretending to be a fan. Not to mention that in the Touhou fanbase, people pretending to be fans without playing the game are usually scorned, looked down upon, and sometimes sacrificed to the Darkstalker Kaathe after being cleaned by the Holy Saliva.
The notes seem to only be open to builders and such, I believe. I think they're still working on to make it better, I don't know.
The bloody hell is a builder? If that's still in beta, it'll eventually be open to everyone.
I don't like having Kancolle shoved down my throat when I'm looking for Touhou.
1. Click "My Account". 2. Click "Settings". 3. Add "touhou kantai_collection" to "Blacklisted tags". 4. Cry tears of joy.
And how would you like if, at the second you start expressing your annoyance, you get attacked, insulted, and ordered to shut up by a bunch of guys that you don't even know, because they like it so much they think everyone should like it too?
So it's perfectly okay for you to disagree with other people, but when other people disagree with you it's a grave sin? M'kay...
The bloody hell is a builder?
I believe it's those restless guys usually seen wearing stupid checkered shirts and blue overalls.
Guys. Stop. Always remember the first Commandment of the Internet:
- Thou shalt not feed the troll.
It's not a troll if the guy has a genuine grievance, albeit a really stupid one regardless. Dude needs to look up yukkuris again, make them kancolle versions for good measure.
I think everyone is missing the point here. FRien didn't say that he hates Kancolle, but he finds things like this annoying and already explained why. And I don't even know why people are even talking about DMM in the first place. They're not important.
What FRien meant by Kancolle "copied/stealed/mimicked" some Touhou memes, like in this pic here, is not simply just the "atai". Even in Touhou, Komachi talks like that as well. The problem here is that it's presented in such a blatant, rather aggressive way. It uses the whole "I'M THE STRONGEST!!" line(which is, from what I know, actually originated from Touhou), with accompanying pose, and even put Cirno(who even said, "That's my line!" in the artist's commentary) in the back to further hammer down the point. Really, if the pic was the two of them saying "WE'RE THE STRONGESTS!!", while posing together or something along that line, I don't think anyone will be bothered by it.
People can say that it's just for fun and jokes, but don't blame them if someone finds it offensive. Can't people do more of lighthearted crossover like this? Also, characters like Tenryuu, Nagato and Kongou are great, showing that they are capable of making interesting characters that are their own. Why the need to make such a blatant expies?
Don't bother wasting your time with them. See the guy earlier who threatens people who post aggressive comments to give them a bad report? He decided that I was agressive (despite me watching my tone carefully and never insulting anyone), and gave me a bad record for that whole mess. TWICE. So don't waste your breath with the kancollefans. Not liking what they like is considered trolling, not kissing DMM's footprints is considered hating, and they'll all insult you with a condescending tone if you happen to have different tastes than them.