I die a little on the inside everytime I see a SCAR. It is pretty much the copy cat of the superior ACR (released by FN 1 year after Magpul showcased their Masada at SHOT show), but Remington Defense didn't sell to citizens, and Bushmaster screwed around with the machining causing the first batch to be duds and killing the reputation.
The SCAR predates the Masada/ACR, though? The SCAR was prototyped by the end of 2004, test units were delivered by August 2005, and LRIP began at the beginning of 2006. Work didn't even begin on the Masada/ACR until 2006.
The SCAR predates the Masada/ACR, though? The SCAR was prototyped by the end of 2004, test units were delivered by August 2005, and LRIP began at the beginning of 2006. Work didn't even begin on the Masada/ACR until 2006.
Don't know why this dude is dying a little by the sight of a SCAR. By timeline alone the SCAR came first, but even then the two have their differences and strengths that would be more noticed on paper side by side or by handling them side by side. I'd take the SCAR though but not the on in the picture.
I die a little on the inside everytime I see a SCAR. It is pretty much the copy cat of the superior ACR (released by FN 1 year after Magpul showcased their Masada at SHOT show), but Remington Defense didn't sell to citizens, and Bushmaster screwed around with the machining causing the first batch to be duds and killing the reputation.
Hm. That's weird. I must be mistaken then. I remember seeing an Masada prototype on Milgunsintheworld.com (domain sold about two years ago unfortunately) that was dated in 2004. It did not look like the ACR of today, but had a cut in the bottom of the magazine well and a paddle mag release. One version looked like it ran on AUG magazines, and the other had like a Hydra AR-15 lower style magwell with a configuration in 5.56 and one in 7.62x39 (or maybe it was 5.45, I can't remember). Maybe the name in the article was wrong, but I was pretty sure that the Magpul's modern rifle projects started before FN's. Wikipedia appears to say otherwise though. My bad then. If anyone can point me to the actual rifle I described here, I would like to know who developed it.
Still, it would have been better if Rem D. and Bushmaster didn't kill the ACR on arrival. I mean, Rem D. tried to be like H&K and tailor only to military, only to be rejected and forced to release to citizens anyways. Such a waste. At least Kinetic developments made some ACR furniture for the SCAR.
Hmm, any other info you can think of? (US company, I presume; meant for the SCAR competition, perhaps?) Not ringing a bell off the top of my head - the only thing close that comes to mind is the Robinson RAV02 MC, about which there's not a whole lot of information these days.
I agree the ACR transition was poorly handled. Given the SCAR's oddities (stock hinge, reciprocating CH, penchant for killing electronics) and Bushmaster/Remington's half-hearted product support, I'd really like to put my hopes on something better out of industry in the near future, considering how popular these split-receiver modular(-ish) rifles are recently. The FNAC was a step in the right direction for the SCAR, if an incremental one, and Bush/Rem really haven't brought vast improvements to their rifle either - the CZ 806 may as well be shooting frickin lazers in comparison, in terms of updating a product family. (Not least because it came out all of 4 years after the 805.) Given that half the point of these rifles was to amalgamate good ideas from legacy designs, it'd seem almost self-contradictory not to hope for something newer, shinier; harder, faster, better, stronger, and I think it's only a matter of time before industry delivers.
Hmm, any other info you can think of? (US company, I presume; meant for the SCAR competition, perhaps?) Not ringing a bell off the top of my head - the only thing close that comes to mind is the Robinson RAV02 MC, about which there's not a whole lot of information these days.
I agree the ACR transition was poorly handled. Given the SCAR's oddities (stock hinge, reciprocating CH, penchant for killing electronics) and Bushmaster/Remington's half-hearted product support, I'd really like to put my hopes on something better out of industry in the near future, considering how popular these split-receiver modular(-ish) rifles are recently. The FNAC was a step in the right direction for the SCAR, if an incremental one, and Bush/Rem really haven't brought vast improvements to their rifle either - the CZ 806 may as well be shooting frickin lazers in comparison, in terms of updating a product family. (Not least because it came out all of 4 years after the 805.) Given that half the point of these rifles was to amalgamate good ideas from legacy designs, it'd seem almost self-contradictory not to hope for something newer, shinier; harder, faster, better, stronger, and I think it's only a matter of time before industry delivers.
Really all I remember is that it was exactly like a ACR (same partially tapered receiver mating and everything, except it had the hydra style exchangeable mag well. Probably became vaporware, like a lot of awesome ideas.
Robinson Arms XCR seems like a good step in the right direction, actually having some caliber conversion, and keeping the price point at least reasonable. Light recoiling too.
