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  • ID: 2344712
  • Uploader: Sythini »
  • Date: about 9 years ago
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  • Source: pixiv.net/artworks/56592264 »
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kitakami and kuma (kantai collection) drawn by hikawa79

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  • 北上提督VS秘書艦球磨 

    気づいたらその1から一年経っていました。
    感謝です。

    Admiral Kitakami VS Secretary Ship Kuma

    Before I knew it, 1 year has passed since I started this series.
    Thanks for your support.

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    ithekro
    about 9 years ago
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    No Kitakami. The Admiral cannot do whatever to their ships.

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    NNescio
    about 9 years ago
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    OP Firepower vs. Paper-thin armor

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    Flandrean
    about 9 years ago
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    RIP ribs

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    NNescio
    about 9 years ago
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    Flandrean said:

    RIP ribs

    Aww don't be such a baby. Ribs grow back!

    Yes zey do. So long as the periosteum (covering sheath) is intact.

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    Demundo
    about 9 years ago
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    Apparently, this means Ooi never survived.

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    Jarlath
    about 9 years ago
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    Look a bit like someone needs to stock up on repair buckets.

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    rom collector
    about 9 years ago
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    NNescio said:

    Aww don't be such a baby. Ribs grow back!

    Yes zey do. So long as the periosteum (covering sheath) is intact.

    I have to investigate further, but I bet is one of those "your chopped arm will fully grow (in 200 years)" kind of things. Either because that's the time the process will take or it's the time for scientist to figure it out how.

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    79248cms
    about 9 years ago
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    rom_collector said:

    I have to investigate further, but I bet is one of those "your chopped arm will fully grow (in 200 years)" kind of things. Either because that's the time the process will take or it's the time for scientist to figure it out how.

    Or like how in every journal there will be some "scientist" who gets an article published on how in a couple of years the world will collapse if we don't get X and Y multi-billion dollar program approved. Like Al Gores "scientific" prediction of the world will end in 10 years (which came and passed). If we can't predict next months weather correctly, a year or decades prediction is probably worthless. Many have tried to get past Occam's razor but all have been cut down by reality. The sad part is that some of us who actually should know better fall for these hype pieces regularly.

    Chances are Kitakami's ribs were cracked right off with the power from a light cruisers elbow. Prepare for internal bleeding.

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    NNescio
    about 9 years ago
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    rom_collector said:

    I have to investigate further, but I bet is one of those "your chopped arm will fully grow (in 200 years)" kind of things. Either because that's the time the process will take or it's the time for scientist to figure it out how.

    79248cm/s said:

    Or like how in every journal there will be some "scientist" who gets an article published on how in a couple of years the world will collapse if we don't get X and Y multi-billion dollar program approved. Like Al Gores "scientific" prediction of the world will end in 10 years (which came and passed). If we can't predict next months weather correctly, a year or decades prediction is probably worthless. Many have tried to get past Occam's razor but all have been cut down by reality. The sad part is that some of us who actually should know better fall for these hype pieces regularly.

    Chances are Kitakami's ribs were cracked right off with the power from a light cruisers elbow. Prepare for internal bleeding.

    Oh come on, guys...

    It was extensively documented fairly recently in a reputed journal. They even have CT scans to prove this.

    Srour, M. et al (2015). Natural Large-Scale Regeneration of Rib Cartilage in a Mouse Model. Journal of bone and mineral research, 30(2), pp.297-308.

    Takes 'bout 6 months for partial regeneration. Yes, the research is primarily modeled base on mice, but they have a human case study in the same paper with CT scans.

    Regeneration is faster in children, and removal of deformed ribs (to let them grow back straight) is a known procedure for certain diseases. See Philip, S., Kumar, R. and Menon, K. (2005). Morphological study of rib regeneration following costectomy in adolescent idiopathic scoliosis. European Spine Journal, 14(8), pp.772-776.

    And also, surgeons doing maxillofacial surgery (jawbone repair, among others) like to get the bone they need for materials directly from the patient's ribs. Since they well, grow back (and of course are highly compatible, what being part of the host anyhow). It's a well-documented procedure that is used quite often (including in the case study in the first paper, that's why they took out his ribs). Goes back quite a while too. Here's a review from the eighties:

    James, D.R. and Irvine, G. H. (1983). Autogenous rib grafts in maxillofacial surgery. Journal of Maxillofacial Surgery, 11(5), pp. 201-203.

    These ain't theorycrafting pieces or armchair forecasting. They are applied research.

    Not to mention that models of climate trends (and not microscopic weather) are fairly accurate anyway, and have only gotten better. I could rebut your point, but this guy does it way better.

    Lemme guess, you guys were searched on google and became skeptical because of all the 'Christian scientists' alluding to the above research (which I might add are purely secular) and using them as justification for their crackpot theories, right?

    Updated by NNescio about 9 years ago

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    Paracite
    about 9 years ago
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    To be fair, don't those papers look more at partial costectomies? The second one specifies 2-3 inch removal only, and the mouse paper was partial also.

    When people hear 'ribs grow back', they're more envisaging a total costectomy occurring and then having a complete regeneration withing a reasonable time-frame without any assistance - the same as having an arm chopped off and coming back.

    It's reasonable to assume that to an average person that 'ribs don't grow back' (from nothing), but rather that 'ribs can fix themselves'.

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    rom collector
    about 9 years ago
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    It's not that I doubt you, it's just that I've seen so many possible cancer cures, renewable energies, newly discovered habitable planets, recent theory only medical research (tested on mice of course) and murderous big objects coming to earth on "prestigious" scientific magazines (of course without mention of the source or who declares them prestigious) that you can't tell what to believe and what don't. The fact that all those discoveries promise results after the reader is old enough to remember or has died already don't make it any easier.

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    NNescio
    about 9 years ago
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    Paracite said:

    To be fair, don't those papers look more at partial costectomies? The second one specifies 2-3 inch removal only, and the mouse paper was partial also.

    When people hear 'ribs grow back', they're more envisaging a total costectomy occurring and then having a complete regeneration withing a reasonable time-frame without any assistance - the same as having an arm chopped off and coming back.

    It's reasonable to assume that to an average person that 'ribs don't grow back' (from nothing), but rather that 'ribs can fix themselves'.

    Oh, I was thinking along the lines of "hair growing back" and took it for granted that surgeons wouldn't remove an entire rib (the fictional Medic also only did accidentally break off a piece that couldn't be longer than 8 cm).(Doctors also tend to refer to the partially removed rib growing back instead of repairing itself, since well, the missing piece does grow back, longer and less deformed even. Fixing to me is more like cracked ribs mending themselves over time) Plus retaining the periosteum implies that some part of the rib still remains for it to be attached to. That said, I guess it was partial failure to communicate on my part, so thanks for pointing that out.

    rom_collector said:

    It's not that I doubt you, it's just that I've seen so many possible cancer cures, renewable energies, newly discovered habitable planets, recent theory only medical research (tested on mice of course) and murderous big objects coming to earth on "prestigious" scientific magazines (of course without mention of the source or who declares them prestigious) that you can't tell what to believe and what don't. The fact that all those discoveries promise results after the reader is old enough to remember or has died already don't make it any easier.

    Ah, "popular science" articles tend to like to dramatize things and make bold claims. Entertainment, readership, and actual readability is more important than being technically correct, after all This includes the popular science division of reputable journals like Nature (the good ones usually only make claims that are at least reasonable from a journalistic perspective, and they document their sources properly, even if their claims are bold). The actual scientific papers are usually far more cagier in their claims.

    (Grant applications are a whole 'nother kettle of fish.)

    Updated by NNescio about 9 years ago

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    Flandrean
    about 9 years ago
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    I was only playing puns of rip and rib

    and look what came out of it.. =_=

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    Estavali
    about 9 years ago
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    Flandrean said:

    I was only playing puns of rip and rib

    and look what came out of it.. =_=

    Welcome to 'Booru =3

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    Huh? Done already kuma?
    S-Stop it kuma!
    So I can do anything I please!
    OP Firepower
    I'm... invincible...
    Paper Armor
    That tickles kuma~💛
    With the power that makes me worshiped like a God...
    Kuma!?
    Oh? Your armpits, is it? Your weakness is your armpits?
    Wait! Ahahaha!
    And authority granted to me as Admiral...
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