Okay, I don't participate much around here, and I'm not sure if there's a better place to bring this up, but
What in the world is up with all the deletion requests for minor problems with anatomy? None of the recent flags I've seen have been for anything more than a small issue with anatomy that most people wouldn't even notice if it wasn't pointed out.
Bad anatomy should not be a reason for deletion unless it's just painful to look at, and shows a clear lack anatomical knowledge. There are a 1000 or more images on this site with far worse anatomy than this one, or any of the ones I've seen getting flagged.
My opinion, someone needs to either chill, or go through the entire bad_anatomy tag, or Hell, the whole damn site, and flag every single image that actually deserves it, cause there are images far more deserving of deletion than this one.
This site is not a museum for the absolute pinacle of artistic creations. It's a place to save great, good, or even just okay art for people to find and enjoy even if the original source of the art becomes unavailable somehow.
Okay, I don't participate much around here, and I'm not sure if there's a better place to bring this up, but
What in the world is up with all the deletion requests for minor problems with anatomy? None of the recent flags I've seen have been for anything more than a small issue with anatomy that most people wouldn't even notice if it wasn't pointed out.
Bad anatomy should not be a reason for deletion unless it's just painful to look at, and shows a clear lack anatomical knowledge. There are a 1000 or more images on this site with far worse anatomy than this one, or any of the ones I've seen getting flagged.
My opinion, someone needs to either chill, or go through the entire bad_anatomy tag, or Hell, the whole damn site, and flag every single image that actually deserves it, cause there are images far more deserving of deletion than this one.
This site is not a museum for the absolute pinacle of artistic creations. It's a place to save great, good, or even just okay art for people to find and enjoy even if the original source of the art becomes unavailable somehow.
It's just the expected behavior of a person who recently read art books and got into drawings and now thinks he has the complete godly knowledge of art and tries as hard as possible to shove it to other people.
I myself, as an artist, have been there too. So I have a pretty personal experience with such behavior.
It's a shame but you really truly can't reason with such a person, so don't bother. Only time can change him
Firstly, apologies if my commenting on this is in some way a problem, I know there's a forum discussion about flag vandalism and abuse, but I dont feel qualified to step into that with how little I get invloved here.
That said, your link is very fascinating, I'm glad I could learn something new from this. I'm just frustrated at the idea of good art potentially being removed because one person can't handle a slightly out of place knee or a leg that's a tad too long. Anyone with a basic understanding of human anatomy can tell you that most art doesn't get it perfect, and there are plenty of images on this site that don't have the bad_anatomy tag that probably should.
That tag exists for a reason. Whoever keeps flagging things for small, ultimately inconsequential mistakes should learn to use it, instead of flagging everything with an almost unnoticeably mis-sized leg. It's just ridiculous.
Look, you don't know who's flagging these posts, and you don't know how many people have done the different flaggings.
Going to the extent of gazing into your crystal ball to psychoanalyze people you have no information about as having something you want to imply is some pseudo-mental illness about false superiority (in a manner so dripping with scorn and your own perceived superiority that I can't help but see hypocrisy) is frankly just a more elaborately-worded version of the shitposting hate at anyone who flags.
How do you know it's not just someone who doesn't like that the uploader is able to skip moderation queues, and is just using the recently-popular flagging reason as an excuse? Sure, it's an unlikely reason, but it has exactly as much evidence as your asspull theory.
For that matter, when someone who has a skip the mod queue privilege recently posted that they mistakenly didn't post to have their upload approved by the mods, the response was to self-flag it. Because flagging isn't strictly about getting something deleted, it's about calling for moderator review.
Look, you don't know who's flagging these posts, and you don't know how many people have done the different flaggings.
Going to the extent of gazing into your crystal ball to psychoanalyze people you have no information about as having something you want to imply is some pseudo-mental illness about false superiority (in a manner so dripping with scorn and your own perceived superiority that I can't help but see hypocrisy) is frankly just a more elaborately-worded version of the shitposting hate at anyone who flags.
How do you know it's not just someone who doesn't like that the uploader is able to skip moderation queues, and is just using the recently-popular flagging reason as an excuse? Sure, it's an unlikely reason, but it has exactly as much evidence as your asspull theory.
For that matter, when someone who has a skip the mod queue privilege recently posted that they mistakenly didn't post to have their upload approved by the mods, the response was to self-flag it. Because flagging isn't strictly about getting something deleted, it's about calling for moderator review.
Seconding.
As far as I see it, the flag reason is a valid concern. Whether this image is reapproved or not depends on which janitor decides the quality is good enough or not to keep, regardless of the original flagger's background or experience in drawing or art evaluation. To go as far as to just assume things about them is fairly cocky behavior, even if Vadosity may be correct.
EDIT: @blindVigil As long as they're not banned, any member can participate in the forums whether experienced or not. In fact, I would recommend reading the more recent posts on topic #13177 for starters regarding this.
You are right, I am sorry. I shouldn't be so easy as to assume these things
And no, it's not a mental illness, it's just a behavioral trend. I'm absolutely not claiming any type of superiority nor do I shame anyone that experience it. It's a completely normal human condition, it's what makes us human. There's absolutely nothing wrong or shameful about it. And I did experience it for a very long time, so at least I know a bit about it.
But I really feel like my guess isn't really that far from the truth. Because this kind of action is exactly what I did to other artists, just a few years ago when I was feeling cocky about my newfound art knowledge. What I'm saying is that if I have a moderator power in here back then, this is what I would exactly do.
But of course I'm not stating this as absolute truth, it's just a guess based on my personal experience
I guess it really is no big secret that most flags in status:flagged are coming from me. I'm actually tired to justifie every time why I flag certain posts. The reasoning is above and besides the word "hill" (because I was missing the correct term) I see no flaw in the flag reason. If the flag reason is not accepted then one can move on. If not then the world doesn't collapse, either. Another repitition of what I always say. See, if my flags were all grey (i.e. there was a re-approval) then I'll notice that and refine the flagging so that posts with clear anatomical issues (to me at first) are filtered out or my wording. That said it has nothing to do wit "feeling superior" because flags are treated by approvers (yes, I'm one, too, but I have no say in the matter if something gets approved). That said: Approvers have always more power than the flagger.
What in the world is up with all the deletion requests for minor problems with anatomy? None of the recent flags I've seen have been for anything more than a small issue with anatomy that most people wouldn't even notice if it wasn't pointed out.
Bad anatomy should not be a reason for deletion unless it's just painful to look at, and shows a clear lack anatomical knowledge.
As someone who does notice these anatomy problems without having anyone point them out, I wholly appreciate them getting flagged. I find this painful to look at, the right foot even more than the shanks.
There are a 1000 or more images on this site with far worse anatomy than this one, or any of the ones I've seen getting flagged.
As you seem to be new around here, let me tell you that this is a non-argument; every post should be judged on its own. Oh, and if you find posts with worse anatomy, please flag them.
This site is not a museum for the absolute pinacle of artistic creations. It's a place to save great, good, or even just okay art for people to find and enjoy even if the original source of the art becomes unavailable somehow.
Disagreeing with you on the “even just okay” part there. You can find more than enough of that elsewhere.
@Provence: I believe “calf” is the word you were looking for for the “hill”.