I'm not sure about adding this to the recursive genderswaps pool, I mean nothing concrete about Jack's real identity was ever confirmed right? All guesswork and hypothesis, for all we know Jack could have actually been female.

Eitr said:

I'm not sure about adding this to the recursive genderswaps pool, I mean nothing concrete about Jack's real identity was ever confirmed right? All guesswork and hypothesis, for all we know Jack could have actually been female.

Maybe. But it is more and very likely it is a psychopathic guy who feel want to please himself by killing women.

I like how they give the male version pants, but the female version runs around in the equivalent of a spandex looking thong; especially when she looks to be pretty much a child.

G.H.O.S.T.E.D. said:

I like how they give the male version pants, but the female version runs around in the equivalent of a spandex looking thong; especially when she looks to be pretty much a child.

Agreed. It's a pretty sad state of the industry when this barely surprised me at all.

You talk as if the same people designed both.

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KyteM said:

You talk as if the same people designed both.

I believe the sentiment is that despite the original loli Jack, designed by a "professional", was given a thong because loli ass means pervy otaku money, this artist decides to give this genderswap proper pants rather than keeping the thong as is.

It's technically the same argument as "male = full plate/female = bikini armor" charade that has been around since forever, only in this case the characters in question also happens to be adolescents.

Well, at least that one artist who drew Astolfo in Jackoslpay kept the thong rather than do what this artist did.

KyteM said:

You talk as if the same people designed both.

I didn't mean it to come off in such a manner. I just find it ironic. "Professionals" design the character one way while this artist designs the genderswapped version this way. I actually like Assassin of Black, but frankly her outfit design is a overall turn-off. Oh well I guess.

I watched a video not-so-long ago that theorized that Jack the Ripper was actually indeed a woman.

So does this still count though?

G.H.O.S.T.E.D. said:

I like how they give the male version pants, but the female version runs around in the equivalent of a spandex looking thong

Think of it this way: most character designers (especially in a series like this) aren't going to be too keen on making skimpy outfits for guys. Sure, a youngish looking girl wearing revealing spandex may be a little weird, but having a (non-Astolfo) boy run around in it may throw off the male playerbase since those outfits are made more for girl-oriented games.

Zettamorose said:

those outfits are made more for girl-oriented games.

Not, really. Look at other female oriented medias like Touken Ranbu, Yuri on Ice or other otomege, unless they're explicitly centered around situations such as swimming(Free, Dive), you will hardly see men in revealing outfit nevertheless.

Not saying the female otakubase is any more "mindful" than the male one, deluding yourself that every male who ever shook hands are gay is just as dumb as thinking every lolis should have their butts out for the world to see, but just pointing out that your statement is false.