Don't buy Sword. Gamefreak and TPC won't improve if we don't make them via wallet votes.
Dude, what's to improve? Nothing, they're not doing anything wrong or doing anything to ruin Pokémon.
You know what needs to improve? This so-called "fan base", ever since this drama started Pokémon "fans" have dropped to a completely whole new level of low unimaginable. Such ungrateful, nitpicking, immature babies whining over the most trivial thing ever and can't take 2 seconds to actually think about it. Sword and Shield is a new game made in a new engine, so they have to make new models and animations for all 900+ Pokémon to be compatible with the engine, they even flat out CONFIRMED this earlier today. And even said that they have to make even more models thanks to the Dynamax and Gigantimax features, and in total would be around 5000+ models and animations or even more for all 900+ Pokémon. Programming games and making models takes a LOT of time, too much time that Game Freak doesn't have right now until the release deadline, so they're focusing on the Pokémon that will be in the base game such as the brand new Pokémon from Galar and others we already know and then after release Game Freak will have all the time they have to focus on making the new Pokémon models and then can even release a patch to include them since Switch games are more update friendly than the 3DS ones are. Seriously, how hard is this for you kids to understand? The reason XY, ORAS, and SM had the same models and animations was because they were made in the SAME engine and thus can be reused without any problems, unlike Sword and Shield which needed to be made from the ground up.
I'm getting both Sword and Shield, and I'm going to love them. Because I'm an actual Pokémon fan since day 1 and I don't give a damn about this trivial crap and I will continue to give Game Freak and the Pokémon company my support instead of jumping on the most cancerous and stupid bandwagon I've ever seen in my life. No one complained that Lets Go Pikachu and Eevee only had Kanto Pokémon plus Meltan and Alola forms, no one complained that Black and White as well as Sun and Moon didn't have a National Pokèdex, no one complained about the remakes as people still want a Diamond and Pearl remake, and no one complained about upgraded rerelease Pokémon games with people STILL wanting an upgraded X and Y game and even wanted Emerald to be put on the Virtual Console of both the 3DS and Wii U while the Switch was still referred to as Project NX during its development. Why are people complaining now?
There is no excuse for this intolerant behavior whatsoever from people older than at least 20, I expected better from gamers from way back when still playing Pokémon and such in this present day like myself. I'm just utterly disappointed in these people, you aren't Pokémon fans at all and don't deserve to call yourself "fans" after hearing one sentence and completely blowing it out of proportion and setting the internet on fire without thinking for 2 seconds.
Recognizing GF's work and maintaining support for Pokemon is one thing, being all uppity and elitist, and calling other people "fake fans" for putting their foot down upon what they see as an overly shoddy release is an entirely different thing.
(Using the term "fake X" in 2019 to demean groups of people lul)
Saying that "no one complained" on the hot topics of the past is blatantly false considering you accurately wrote down that many. The complainers just happened to be the minority, except that minority has constantly growing and the straight-up removal of many pokemon from a clear "Main Series Game" was the straw that broke the camel's back.
And I'm putting MY foot down on this misunderstood and unnecessarily hostile drama, I'm not being elitist or uppity, I'm being open minded, rational, and understanding. Why should people who harass both the fans and the developers with extreme threats and insults be considered "fans"? No, they're extremist trolls. I've been harassed just for expressing positive interest in SnS on posts before the drama started, I tried to be nice only to get the most foul and immature responses ever. This is worse than SAO haters doing the same thing to fans of the series just because they like it and they don't, why should anyone stoop so low to be a disgusting excuse of a human being over a simple opinion that doesn't affect them at all?
Yes, you're free to like and dislike something, you have that right and we shouldn't judge. What you DON'T have the right to do, is bash someone very rudely just for having an opposite opinion.
Having mixed reception and simple disagreements and discussions about it is one thing, having a flame war and a witch hunt against those actually being positive toward the game and the developers is another thing.
I just said this is a new game being made from scratch, the reason lots of Pokémon are being "removed" as you call it, is because GF doesn't have time to make all those models within their given deadline till release. 900+ Pokémon, each with their own animation set, you expect all that to be made quickly? No, that's completely ridiculous. Admittedly I was initially disappointed when I heard the news of lots of Pokémon not being included but then I got over it after thinking deeply on the subject and understanding their limitations, which no one else is bothering to do. Even when GF flat out says it, confirming my theories, people are still adamantly and nastily denying it. Why? Just why? We only have 2 trailers to go by, it's not even out for another 4 months and you're already jumping the gun and calling it shoddy without even playing it? That immediately is invalid since you can't say anything on something you never even tried. Wait till the game is out, try it, and then you can make your judgement and you're free to dislike SnS if you wish.
Why is it so hard to respect other's opinion, not make a judgement call without even trying something, not be such a really nasty jerk for no reason, and completely misunderstand something and blow it out of context very WRONGLY in this day and age? Please, tell me, why? We should be much better than this, both as fans of a series and as human beings.
Both "sides" are equally immature. Could you please enjoy your for children yearly game in silence and stop flooding other communities with your toxic and elitist behavior defending or attacking each other (sexual) preferences? I am sure there are specific groups for that, yet you all crawl from under rocks every time an announcement happen. Pokemon is not as popular out there as you may believe. For starters this isn't a gaming community but an art one. We also don't care if a certain skin tone of dark excites your inner fetishes. Neither if you wanted sex with Gardevoir (I had to Google "humanoid Pokemon" for that).
Not sure if you have any points to convey outside of "I don't know Pokeymanz, so you Pokeymanz people should shut up and never express your opinion on anything because I can't bear to see paragraphs of conversation I cannot understand. BTW I'm going to refer to other Pokeymanz related controversies and dump it here even though it's irrelevant because I just want to say that Pokeymanz people are stupid".
Not a smart statement either way. It just sounds like you're trying to hypocritically stop people from throwing hollow insults, by throwing the hollowest insult yourself.
On the topic of "boycott or not boycott SwSh" though, my favorite Pokemon(Lanturn) is confirmed to be in, so I'll buy the game and probably enjoy it nevertheless. I understand the reason why some mons had to be removed(not because they don't have the 3D models but to not overwhelm the kids who just jump into the series), but at the same time yes I understand why people are pissed. Both sides have a point but both sides can also be immature. Everyone is free to talk until the talk turns into a childish squabble of who's the dum-dum and who's the tard.
The concerns I have, however, lies in the removal of Megas and Z-Moves in favor of Dyna/Gigantamax. GF certainly isn't doing this to "balance the game", considering Gigantamax itself is broken beyond belief. They essentially are just removed as a marketing tactic.
I understand that Megas and Z-Moves are out of place in SwSh because like the other 900 mons, they'll potentially bog down the game so much the kids(the main target audience) cannot keep track of and enjoy the post-game. It's not a decision I personally like, but it's one I understand the logic behind.
My issue is that I fear the generations will now revolve around 1-off gimmicks that is meant to be forgotten in the next gen. Gigantamax is already just essentially rebranded Megas, so it just doesn't look good for the franchise's identity and originality if this keeps up.
Edit: Also never understood why people bring this "hey stop having discussions, we're just here to fap!" up. Nobody is stopping you, nobody says you must be part of the conversation. If you're going to tl;dr anyway, why bother what others are talking about? What the hell else is the comment section supposed to be for if not for discussions? Yes the discussion isn't directly related to the picture, but hey if we did find an image related to the controversy, uploaded it here exactly for the sake of being able to talk about it, would you leave us alone? I doubt it.
My issue is that I fear the generations will now revolve around 1-off gimmicks that is meant to be forgotten in the next gen. Gigantamax is already just essentially rebranded Megas, so it just doesn't look good for the franchise's identity and originality if this keeps up.
That may not be the right wording. Originality has nothing to do with it; I don't think Pokémon will ever have a problem with its originality. I don't think a series this big will have a problem with its identity for a long time as long as it keeps acting the way it is now.
I think its more about losing consistency and familiarity? People understandably wouldn't want to see the game become a potpourri of mechanics and unfamiliar terminology with every generation, but I don't even think that's happening either. Pokémon has shaken up the gameplay formula in the past, and people have had things to say about that then as well, but those were more expansions that introduced new types, new combat elements, and shaking up balance by changing weaknesses and strengths. For the most part, people have been receptive of these changes because it clearly stays true to its original "core design" and maintains familiarity.
As a long running series, it has had thematic and setting gimmicks between its releases already though. Its not like it isn't possible to have gimmicks that affect the gameplay, and introduce those changes as part of the series' core design in a good way. Touhou shows that a series can be made entirely on just gameplay gimmicks, with the core game of that series ultimately being very shallow, and instead gaining most of its originality from its execution rather than its core by utilizing a colorful cast and unique game-to-game changes.
There is pressure to innovate at some point to avoid riding the product into the dirt when you have released as many as this. I think people are being blinded by nostalgia when they say designing one-offs will kill the series. There is always going to be some loss of familiarity in introducing changes like this, and that is going to upset people, but as long as the core game is still good and these changes are made accessible to the target audience I think people will come back to it. Whether or not this game is actually good or not is another issue, but if anything these changes can only improve sales and help get new people talking about the game.
The concerns I have, however, lies in the removal of Megas and Z-Moves in favor of Dyna/Gigantamax. GF certainly isn't doing this to "balance the game", considering Gigantamax itself is broken beyond belief. They essentially are just removed as a marketing tactic.
I understand that Megas and Z-Moves are out of place in SwSh because like the other 900 mons, they'll potentially bog down the game so much the kids(the main target audience) cannot keep track of and enjoy the post-game. It's not a decision I personally like, but it's one I understand the logic behind.
My issue is that I fear the generations will now revolve around 1-off gimmicks that is meant to be forgotten in the next gen. Gigantamax is already just essentially rebranded Megas, so it just doesn't look good for the franchise's identity and originality if this keeps up.
I suspect what you've described is basically the compromise they've come down to. I mean, Z-stuff was already like a toned-down Megas that could be used by a wider variety of Pokemon, so likely, they're just going to try to have a mechanic that changes every game that makes one Pokemon your super-special bestest Pokemon with the one-per-team powerup, and just reintroduce it every game. I mean, they already have "one-off gimmicks" in the form of the legendary Pokemon and the Team Whatever that gets replaced every generation. (Although granted, you can port over legendaries once they're part of the game...)
Keep in mind that for kids' properties, this sort of thing is pretty common. Silver Age Superhero comics would blatantly reuse whole plotlines after about 5 years, just because they expected the target audience to have aged out by then. How many rebooted versions of Transformers have there been? (Especially compared to those that have actual continuity between series or even past 5 seasons...)
Pokemon is always going to have to ride the line between making the game accessible to new audiences and also fixing old mistakes or poor game balance with the die-hard fans wanting to keep everything they've gained from apparently playing as much as 22 years with the same freakin' Charizard. (And they've had to fix a lot. The Gen1 meta was so laughably broken that the game basically amounted to "psychic pokemon" and "anything that could possibly stand up to a psychic pokemon.") And yes, it may not have the mega evolution anymore, but considering how unbelievably lingering its popularity is, it's probably going to get a gigantamax that looks basically the same.
There's a difference between "have new human characters every installment" and "have one-off gimmicks". For one thing human characters can always make cameos in later games, most often as post-game optional bosses, but I doubt you can do that with gimmicks. You can't just throw in a random post-game boss who uses Megas while the game continues to deprive of your ability to also use them yourself.
It's also different to compare a running game franchise to a running TV show franchise. I mean the Pokemon anime itself already is doing the "kid entertainment reusing whole plotlines after every 5 years thing" in what with Ash going through whatever the next regional league is over and over, sometimes indeed with whole episode plots ripped whole-hog off from previous seasons(Swellow and Staraptor).
Also you can't just say there's a ton of Transformers and Marvel shows with their own continuity coming out every 5 or so years because that's just having spinoffs of the core comic. Much like how Pokemon itself can have multiple mangas with their own continuity and characters.
The issue here is more akin to TCG style of "we're introducing a new generation of cards revolving around a new mechanic, it also happens to render the mechanics you have been playing with for the last 5 years completely unplayable". It's not the spin-off but the core media of the franchise that has been forcibly changed. You wanna play Yugioh but you don't want to bother with Link summoning? Too bad but the new rule says if you don't use Link summoning, you can't use any other summoning methods you've been using as well!
Now if you wanna play competitive Pokemon, you simply just can't use Megas anymore because GF is shoving Gigantamax into your face and is telling you "forget the Megas, Gigantamax is where it's AT!" while also making boldfaced lies about how SwSh is "designed to be balanced" when again, Gigantamax is literally just Mega but even more broken.
Yes the "main core" experience of catching, battling and journeying Pokemons is still there so you could argue that the franchise's major identity is not lost, but the main Pokemon storyline usually only takes about 20-30 hours while it is the post-game content people can pour hundreds of hours into. If all you care about is the main storyline, I doubt this issue will bother you, but if you wanna play beyond that, well you have no choice but to deal with Gigantamax now, like it or not.
Also what I mean is that like Megas and Z-Move, no matter how much advertisements they push onto it right now, Dyna/Gigantamax will just forcibly be pushed to the side to advertise the next new mechanic comes Gen 9. That's what I mean about the "loss of identity", now they may be singing "Gigantamax is the best! Gigantamax is the best! If you wanna play this game you better LOVE Gigantamaxing!", but in 3 years they'll once again be shoving a new mechanic down your throat while saying "Gigantamax? What's that? It's so lame now forget it and have this new super-cool, super awesome thing instead!"
I see all the discussion, regardless of tone, was simply voted down.
PaizuriEnthusiast said:
why the fuck are you people arguing we're just trying to bust nuts
SamoanPup said:
This devolved into pure dipshittery mighty fast.
Not surprised given it's danbooru....
MxXx69 said:
Big agree.
So let me ask, what's YOUR point? Again, WHO is stopping you from going to other images and fap and do whatever? You're all basically already tl;dr-ing everything anyway, so why is it YOUR problem someone else wants to have a lengthy conversation?
It's like the only way to have a "peaceful conversation" here is for everyone to just shut up, because no one wants to apparently share any thoughts beyond which waifu they wanna fuck.
I wasn't angry exchanging paragraphs with other people, because I actually READ them and know that they're also people who want to share their perspective. What I'm pissed off at is you people who never read anything longer than 3 sentences, immediately assume animosity, and downvote everything because of it while hypocritically say we should "leave the picture alone".
Now if you wanna play competitive Pokemon, you simply just can't use Megas anymore because GF is shoving Gigantamax into your face and is telling you "forget the Megas, Gigantamax is where it's AT!" while also making boldfaced lies about how SwSh is "designed to be balanced" when again, Gigantamax is literally just Mega but even more broken.
You're acting like Gigantamax isn't just Megas with a new name and some slightly changed balance/meta, which they've always been doing between games. (You even acknowledge that they're "literally just Mega but even more broken", although I'm not sure how you can make that latter assessment until the game comes out...)
I mean, if you're complaining about how they're "taking away" your Megas, you can say the same thing happened when Talonflame got nerfed for dominating the meta, or if you go back to Gen 1, how much Psychic dominated. They pretty much have to change up the meta, especially when it starts to lock in place due to well-known exploits or poor balance. I'm sure there's quite a few players that were rather upset when their champion Talonflame was taken down a few pegs, but a larger portion of players were happy to see it go.
Gigantamax isn't a "one-off gimmick", it's just a relabeling of the same thing that's going to be around in one form or another every generation, and they're just going to use the excuse of pretending it's "something new" to rebalance basically the same thing. (And again, I'll bet anything that the same popular pokemon like Charizard are going to be first in line to get the new Megas every friggin' game.)
To the people who will just downvote this just because it's long, by downvoting you're just proving my point that you can't be bothered to read and just want to get your little, insignificant sense of superiority by a single button push because you don't know how else you can win against one "internet meanie".
I wouldn't be so pissed if Danbooru's downvoting system doesn't double as bullshit censorship put in the hands of people like you who exactly otherwise wouldn't give a shit about the conversation.
If you're here to fap, why are you even looking at the comments? Why do you care? I'd love if you explain that to me, but I already know you won't explain because pressing 1 button is easier.
NWSiaCB said:
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Again to reiterate. My point is that Gigantamax is really just Megas, but now GF is hailing it as the next new revolutionary awesome thing when it clearly is not. That is what I meant by "hurting the series' originality". Who's to say in Gen 9 they won't just take Gigantamax out, put in some other alternate form mechanics and rename it all over again when it effectively does the same thing.
And the thing about "loss of identity" is that, because every generation will be defined by the game promoting this "new" mechanic as the best thing ever, only to be forgotten in the next.
Could go on, but I'd keep this one short. Wouldn't wanna waste more time typing in a post I know will be downvoted by people who hypocritically claim they "don't care".
Self-righteousness? I might ask you to read any of my previous post and please tell me who's the self-righteous ones.
The issue here is like this. Imagine you're in the public talking to someone. It doesn't matter what you're talking about, but suddenly some random guy jumps in, slaps a sticker saying "DO NOT LISTEN" onto your head and shouts "stop talking so long! We're here to masturbate!" then run away without explaining themselves or much less, listen to what you were saying.
And now you're told that is the norm, and that is how you should talk. And if you don't agree now you're the self-righteous douchebag.
Yes the sticker they put on you is ineffective, but that just made it all the more questionable to both the people who designed it and the people who go around slapping it on others.
And again, if you downvote this post, you're just proving it to me you're exactly like the person I spoke of in this example.
Honestly Megas, Z-moves, etc are all really irrelevant long term. As long as pokemon remains a "mon" game, it's core identity will be intact. They could- and probably will- have a different gimmick every generation, but as long as the core is intact, I think it will do just fine. They could switch out all the mons, it might hurt. They could change up the story, it might hurt. But the core gameplay will likely remain the same as it has since Red Blue Green: choose a starter, capture new mons, build a team, travel the game world, beat game. The gimmicks are just that. Gimmicks.
The gimmicks being gimmicks even makes sense in an in-story context - every region has their own local cultural specialty when it comes to combat techniques, based on their own history and Legendaries' gifts. Why would Poke-brits do the technique that involves Polynesian haka-style dancing, or poke-Hawaiians do the technique that draws on energy residue from the wars of ancient Kalos?
To the people who will just downvote this just because it's long
That's not why I'm downvoting.
EDIT: Since someone thought this was worth undoing my self-downvote, I will explain. What I downvoted was posts whining about being downvoted. I actually upvoted azurelorochi's posts that were actually sensible commentary, though that wasn't enough to rescue some of them.
Accordingly, whoever upvoted me, I would be obliged if you would undo your upvote, since this comment itself is a form of wanking about upvotes and downvotes and thus does not deserve to be visible by default.
I don't know who is abusing the voting system, neither I do care. It means someone read me and the SHORT comment reached its purpose. I see many long comments here, but just like NWSiaCB's ones I simply ignore. tl;dr poor quality content for something that should be simple explanations.
If you get triggered for a downvote, that's just a legitimate proof of self-righteousness. Your comment is not more important that any other, upvoted or not. If you do care, then maybe you are touching the topic in the wrong place. Maybe you need to talk about your for children yearly game with deviated fetishes for adults somewhere else you get taken seriously. 4chan and Furaffinity could be good candidates. GameFAQs if you really do care for the core gameplay.
I don't know who is abusing the voting system, neither I do care. It means someone read me and the SHORT comment reached its purpose. I see many long comments here, but just like NWSiaCB's ones I simply ignore. tl;dr poor quality content for something that should be simple explanations.
Very much this. Thank you for saying this the numerous time I have wanted to in the past.
Everyone is entitled to try to have some legitimate discussion here and there, and that's fine and normal as long as it is well formatted, neat, and concise as possible. Ranting at others or posting pages of highly informational text is rude and never appropriate online or offline. I don't consider how I normally write to be too long (or most of these comments for that matter), but proper context varies when online, and people lose their cool and mess up sometimes.
Ultimately, choosing your words carefully and focusing on key points is a fine art that shows you know more about what your are saying and makes you appear more intelligent and charismatic. Rambling is, again, rude when uncalled for, and makes you seem desperate and agitated.
There is context for long speech, but public internet space is not always it. Outside of that, make your writing more likable if you want anyone to read it. That's not calling anyone here out (I also got my comment put away on this topic), that's simply the way the world works.
Again to reiterate. My point is that Gigantamax is really just Megas, but now GF is hailing it as the next new revolutionary awesome thing when it clearly is not. That is what I meant by "hurting the series' originality". Who's to say in Gen 9 they won't just take Gigantamax out, put in some other alternate form mechanics and rename it all over again when it effectively does the same thing.
That's exactly what they'll do, because they have no other choice. They'll have Y-Power bracelets in the next game or have a Petaevolution that's really just megaevolution with a new label because renaming their mechanics is just a hollow marketing stunt to excite kids while being ignored by experienced players. Again, that's exactly what they do with whatever the legendary of the new game is or the Team Whatever of the game. They come out and make a big deal of the one-per-party power each time the same way they make a big deal out of how powerful Kygore is even though it's gone by the next game. Again, you're acting like Gigantamax is somehow taking away Megas and this is a big deal even when you admit it's the same thing and that it therefore isn't important at all.
Has Pokemon suffered a "loss of identity" from having Team Rocket forgotten or the super-important god-tier pokemon they put on the box art never be mentioned again? Has Pokemon "ruined the balance" by nerfing meta-dominating pokemon like Mewtwo or Talonflame?
posting pages of highly informational text is rude and never appropriate online or offline.
You do not seem to understand how conversations are supposed to work. Making posts just to say TL;DR is simply flameposting and trolling, and that is never appropriate online or offline. If people want to start insulting others and starting arguments for having even civil discussions in public spaces, then there's going to need to be negative feedback or even moderation brought in.
I just say this. If I ever wanted to read whatever someone looks up on Google to sound knowledgeable or interesting about any topic I would do it by my own instead. Posting a large wall of text everyone can look for denotes you don't know anything you talk about or you are simply burying your opinion into copy pasted garbage in an attempt to try "winning an argument" by hiding, diluting it or deviating the topic. No quality worth read... and that's why avoid NWSiaCB comments. I could almost bet he even sets off a timer to flood twice this place every hour.
You do not seem to understand how conversations are supposed to work. Making posts just to say TL;DR is simply flameposting and trolling, and that is never appropriate online or offline. If people want to start insulting others and starting arguments for having even civil discussions in public spaces, then there's going to need to be negative feedback or even moderation brought in.
I did not say that. You have to know that is not what I meant. I sincerely mean no harm, but I insist on what I said. I'm not making that up either, some of those lines are verbatim from my Technical Writing 1 teacher when I was studying engineering on the section for how to give persuasive instructions and being likeable as a manager. I'm very passionate about writing when I write seriously, and I only ever give this spiel advice seriously because I've gotten it to work multiple times in my life.
I'm not saying civil discourse isn't allowed here. I'm not saying its appropriate to tell people to "shut up and fap"; those people are wrong and should be ignored. I'm not saying there isn't any kind civil discussion here (there is some). I'm just saying encourage civil discourse and understanding by actually making civil discourse and leaving room in posts for replies in the future. Passive-aggressive and long-winded speeches with no context will annoy most people and attract the wrong kind of response, especially on public internet spaces.
I don't want to interrupt anyone any further on this, as this is way too off topic for Pokémon. I'm just offering my thoughts in hope that they help someone who reads them.
I just say this. If I ever wanted to read whatever someone looks up on Google to sound knowledgeable or interesting about any topic I would do it by my own instead. Posting a large wall of text everyone can look for denotes you don't know anything you talk about or you are simply burying your opinion into copy pasted garbage in an attempt to try "winning an argument" by hiding, diluting it or deviating the topic. No quality worth read... and that's why avoid NWSiaCB comments. I could almost bet he even sets off a timer to flood twice this place every hour.
Anyone can and everyone does ignore topics one is not interested in. Using other people's discussions as an excuse simply to disrespect others for even having a conversation regardless of content is simply trolling. To claim that knowing what one is talking about and using supporting facts to make a persuasive argument is somehow trying to ruin a discussion that apparently "should" be held only by covering one's ears from any facts they didn't want to hear and shouting "LALALA" is the height of anti-intellectualism.
The simple fact that you're not even attempting to make any argument but simply to insult other users shows that this whole thing is a bad-faith argument you're simply using as an excuse for trolling. Apparently, one negative feedback for failing to understand howto:Comment was not enough?
The fact that people are getting downvoted left and right here is exactly my point.
It's not the first, second or tenth time I've seen this on this site. I write a short, inoffensive comment disagreeing with someone or the art with the most neutral tone possible, people misinterpreted it and downvote, then call me an idiot. I write a longer post explaining my stance with more clarity, people tl;dr it, downvote, then call me an idiot. In both cases, very rarely do the ones downvoting give any form of counterarguments outside of "you disagree = you're dumb".
It's infuriating to have to deal with these people, often when they're not even the person you're talking to. It's not the downvote I'm annoyed by, it's not being called idiot, it's the attitude of people who doesn't care to explain themselves and Danbooru's very own voting system that seems to be suggesting this type of behavior is justified.
It's not that I think my posts are more important than the others, again looking in this very own thread, everyone else also had their posts downvoted, regardless of what they're saying. That's the issue I'm annoyed with.
I've been trying to be really far from these kinds of fights since the Nessa "controversy". It's kinda sad how the announcement of a beloved franchise is now a battle ground for fans against other fans or even baitters or trolls.
Guys, it's always been like this; people complaining isn't something new: "These new pokemons looks like digimons", "these new pokemons doesn't have a great design", "the new protagonist looks boorish/too sexual", "the starters are crap/I bet there's going to be another fire/fighter starter", and that.
But seems like in recent years, people take criticism at something they like/follows as a personal attack. It's just a game. Nintendo is still going to make more games after Shield/Sword and your opinion about that isn't going to change anything.
Thing is, people can have opinions. People can think Garbordor is the worst Pokemon ever, some might love it for its goofy design, some might hate it at first and grew to love it maybe after using it in a Nuzlocke.
People have opinions, people have the rights to express it and compare/contrast it to the others. That sort of thing should be encouraged.
Though when everyone takes any slightest shadow of disagreement as a personal attack, that is indeed an issue. But it also is problematic when the only "peaceful" option is for everyone to "shut up and deal with it, GF is too big to care about your opinion", since then you're not solving any problems, you're just ignoring them.
There may be EA who will continue to act like the worst company they are no matter what people say, and there's Paramount who's actually willing to listen to fan outcries for the sake of making the better end product.
People could and should be vocal as long as they're civil. Not saying every fan crusade is right, but again saying "everyone should just shut up", isn't helping.