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  • ID: 368534
  • Uploader: loenthk »
  • Date: over 16 years ago
  • Size: 126 KB .jpg (600x525) »
  • Source: pixiv.net/artworks/1781977 »
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beatrice, ushiromiya battler, ushiromiya ange, frederica bernkastel, lambdadelta, and 2 more (umineko no naku koro ni) drawn by noshio
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    sgcdonmai
    over 16 years ago
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    Wait a minute. You can't win at chess if all you've got is the king! The best you can get out of that is a stalemate! Beato's cheating!

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    Ikarum
    over 16 years ago
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    O RLY?

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    sgcdonmai
    over 16 years ago
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    YA RLY.
    In chess, you are not allowed to make any move that puts your king in check. Since kings can attack in each of the eight squares around them, moving one king next to another at all is a violation of the rules.
    Thus, when nothing is left except two kings, the match is an automatic stalemate. "Winning" - i.e., checkmating your opponent - is impossible.

    I raged about this during Schneizel and Zero's chess match in Code Geass R2, also.

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    Emporer-Wakamoto
    over 16 years ago
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    sgcdonmai said:
    YA RLY.
    In chess, you are not allowed to make any move that puts your king in check. Since kings can attack in each of the eight squares around them, moving one king next to another at all is a violation of the rules.
    Thus, when nothing is left except two kings, the match is an automatic stalemate. "Winning" - i.e., checkmating your opponent - is impossible.

    I raged about this during Schneizel and Zero's chess match in Code Geass R2, also.

    It was done on purpose in R2

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    sgcdonmai
    over 16 years ago
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    Emporer-Wakamoto said:
    It was done on purpose in R2

    Didn't seem that way to me. Lelouch knows chess (supposedly), but didn't call Scheizel on it when he made an illegal move?

    The proper way to deal with such a situation is to ask the opponent if that is really the move they wish to make, and if they insist that it is, then they have forfeited - intentionally moving your king next to your opponent's, when your opponent can always make the next move, is suicide.

    If the game's rules were well-known to the series' maker(s), Schneizel wouldn't have made the move. If he had, Lelouch would not have hesitated to call the game in his own favor - especially with what he had staked on the game.

    No, it was clearly a blunder by the creators.

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    Emporer-Wakamoto
    over 16 years ago
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    sgcdonmai said:
    Didn't seem that way to me. Lelouch knows chess (supposedly), but didn't call Scheizel on it when he made an illegal move?

    The proper way to deal with such a situation is to ask the opponent if that is really the move they wish to make, and if they insist that it is, then they have forfeited - intentionally moving your king next to your opponent's, when your opponent can always make the next move, is suicide.

    If the game's rules were well-known to the series' maker(s), Schneizel wouldn't have made the move. If he had, Lelouch would not have hesitated to call the game in his own favor - especially with what he had staked on the game.

    No, it was clearly a blunder by the creators.

    Clearly you weren't paying attention, the game itself wasn't important to either of them it was simply a convenient test to measure the other. Schneizel purposly made an illegal move to see how Zero would react, Lelouch realizing that Schneizel is just handing him an easy win on purpose decides to not take it, Schenizel acts surprised because the Emperor would have taken the win no matter what while Zero chose not to. They even say as much in the episode itself for crying out loud, how can people STILL think it was an error made by mistake?

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    RumittanceWuzHere111
    over 16 years ago
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    Moving onwards, is anyone actually surprised that Beatrice cheated?

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    Ikarum
    over 16 years ago
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    Fencedude said:
    Moving onwards, is anyone actually surprised that Beatrice cheated?

    that is what i was trying to remark

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    sgcdonmai
    over 16 years ago
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    Emporer-Wakamoto said:
    They even say as much in the episode itself for crying out loud, how can people STILL think it was an error made by mistake?

    Because they never called it an illegal move. They just acted like "oh no, Schneizel made a ballsy move and opened himself up to capture".
    Also, the fact that Zero was even allowed to retreat his king. If an illegal move is recognized, the game is called. Period. Zero wouldn't even have had that chance.

    They simply made the mistake of applying the rules of shogi, where the checked player need not admit checkmate until his king is taken. They simply did not do their homework.

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    auryi
    over 16 years ago
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    Dude, let it go, it's not really that important.

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