As smoking hot as the remake version turned out, Iâm still on the âdonât give them an inchâ type thing, especially for the reasons given for the reduction butâŠeh. 1% was sacrificed and everything else was done right and then some, so itâs not whatever but itâs close enough to whatever
As smoking hot as the remake version turned out, Iâm still on the âdonât give them an inchâ type thing, especially for the reasons given for the reduction butâŠeh. 1% was sacrificed and everything else was done right and then some, so itâs not whatever but itâs close enough to whatever
Christ, you perverts just canât let shit go, huh?
Christ, you perverts just canât let shit go, huh?
You canât do the whole âlol making a big deal out of nothing!â Thing when someone thought it was a big enough deal to change it in the first place.
If youâre allowed to make a big deal out of it, and other people arenât? What youâre actually saying âI get to do whatever I want and you canât stop meâ
People who don't like Tifa think the only thing people care about are her boobs...and I never thought the people who disliked her would be more right than the people who supposedly did.
Dunno, but if you do, tell me. People are acting like Tifa's character was completely changed, like Asuka in the Evangelion new movies, but for the few I saw, the only difference I noticed is that she wears shorts.
Dunno, but if you do, tell me. People are acting like Tifa's character was completely changed, like Asuka in the Evangelion new movies, but for the few I saw, the only difference I noticed is that she wears shorts.
And a sports bra that's somehow important to cause this shit storm a year later, but not enough for people to know how bras work.
You canât do the whole âlol making a big deal out of nothing!â Thing when someone thought it was a big enough deal to change it in the first place.
If youâre allowed to make a big deal out of it, and other people arenât? What youâre actually saying âI get to do whatever I want and you canât stop meâ
To which the answer is ânoâ
I'm just going to add that you're going about this the wrong way. The person who made the design choices for Remake aren't the same person who's telling you you're making a big deal out of it. It's not even a "big deal" considering they're still very big, just packed up. You're picking a fight with the wrong person.
Dunno, but if you do, tell me. People are acting like Tifa's character was completely changed, like Asuka in the Evangelion new movies, but for the few I saw, the only difference I noticed is that she wears shorts.
I mean, I literally said the opposite of that? Who are these âpeopleâ you speak of?
Actually did literally anyone act or imply that? Or are you just making things up to high five other people that are âtoo coolâ for this argument, while also participating in itâŠvery poorly?
Tsukiru said
Good lord what is happening in here
You starting up an argument that I 1. Said is âbasiclaly whateverâ so didnât have to continue past my post 2 I took steps to end and you started up several hours later just to again, act like youâre âabove itâ only to participate in it at the same time and high five others doing the same. So.
I mean, I literally said the opposite of that? Who are these âpeopleâ you speak of?
Actually did literally anyone act or imply that? Or are you just making things up to high five other people that are âtoo coolâ for this argument, while also participating in itâŠvery poorly?
You starting up an argument that I 1. Said is âbasiclaly whateverâ so didnât have to continue past my post 2 I took steps to end and you started up several hours later just to again, act like youâre âabove itâ only to participate in it at the same time and high five others doing the same. So.
Since you insistâŠ.
You're again, fighting the wrong person. I never said I was "above it," if it was whatever you wouldn't have commented about it in the first place. You didn't admit any faults or resolve anything or even delete the instigating comment or the poor argument afterwards, so that doesn't count as taking "steps to end". And yes I commented on it hours later, because that's what you do when you see a shit storm hours later. My bad for clarifying your argument kinda sucked, I guess.
She has a sport bra in the remake? I didn't even notice.
It's what's supposed to be the black cloth under her top, I'm pretty sure. Some of my favorite Tifa art joke about that and I think most Remake related art is tagged sports_bra accordingly.
And a sports bra that's somehow important to cause this shit storm a year later, but not enough for people to know how bras work.
So, letâs help you to understand âwhatâs going on hereâ since you âtotally donât care about thisâ but âalso have an opinion strong enough to insult people aboutâ but âalso youâre probably going to act like Iâm the one who keeps going on and onâ what can ya do? Lol
No one has a problem because they âdonât know how bras workâ The problems people have are that
1 when you remake something you want it to be like you remembered. A significant amount of people didnât like the change to real time battle all the way though. For some reason, they donât have people high fiving eachother while they collectively insult them.
2 This is Tifa. One of the most iconic girls in all gaming and loved for being a sex symbol while also kickingass (and being generally great but I could go on for years on this, so Iâll stop). This so also the long awaited remake so people wanted this to be soem right. There were people worried that the cross dressing my scene would he censored years in advance. People were worried that Tifa, specifically was going to have have her sex appeal nerfed. Why?
3 there have been issues with censorship of videos games and other such media, especially from Japan in recent years. Especially from Sony. It actually caused some developers to basically create watered down ports on the system as protest since they were locked into contracts, caused delays and cancellations and caused at least one prominent director developer to quit his team and join another company. So this isnât just âangry pathetic perverts on the internetâ upset about this. This was a concern as soon as the game was announced, and it came true, and there was nothing we could do about it but watch it happen. There are a lot of people tired of this feeling with stuff that they love.
4 She isnât just âwearing a sports bra now lol!â It was a deliberate decision to ârestrict her chestâ as the creator of the game , that was was due to an âethics committeeâ deciding that it would be âunnaturalâ. Didnât look âunnaturalâ before. This is a fantasy game. Itâs probably gonna look âunnaturalâ when she suplexes a giant snake but I doubt thatâs going to change. This decision was not made for the sake of the fans or with the slightest regard to our opinions. It wasnât to make the game better. It was unilaterally decided in some corporate room for the sake of âethicsâ and soem guys opinion on ânaturalnessâ
There are people like me who are sick and tired of having so-called morals and ethics imposed on them unilaterally. And often that is done by people who dislike, refuse to understand, and have nothing but open contempt for us. You know, like that guy who talked down to me about being a âpervertâ. You know, people like you who want to talk down to me about âcausing a shitstorm because you donât know what a bra isâ. So. They donât want that influence felt in the things they love. They decided to do the one thing they can do. Voice their concerns in public only to be ignored and also attacked.
5 so. Present day. I being this up, say that âI have a problem but whatever.â and a couple people make some snark comment(I guess this is a âshitstormâ lol.)
Boom. All caught up. Any more questions?
Tsukiru said:
I never said I was "above it,"
Hahahahaha
if it was whatever you wouldn't have commented about it in the first place.
Read what I said.
You didn't admit any faults
What faults? You wonât even admit your bullshit attitude.
or the poor argument afterwards,
Iâm supposed to âdeleteâ other peopleâs comments?
My bad for clarifying your argument kinda sucked, I guess.
You seriously need to grow a pair. Quit being passive aggressive and just say what you mean or just stop talking.
LoOugi said: Boom. All caught up. Any more questions?
Not reading all that because you keep putting words in my mouth or just don't know what you're talking about. "In all of fighting games," GOD BLESS THE RING and Dissidia I guess. Good for you or sorry that happened. I'm not wasting more time with someone who is clearly too self absorbed to have any self-awareness about how mad they're being over "whatever."
I'm just going to add that you're going about this the wrong way. The person who made the design choices for Remake aren't the same person who's telling you you're making a big deal out of it. It's not even a "big deal" considering they're still very big, just packed up. You're picking a fight with the wrong person.
Oh youâre âjust going to addâ this eh? Oh yes. Because youâre an outsider merely commenting. But also totally not acting like youâre above this.
But also, âitâs not a big deal but hereâs multiple comments TOTALLY NOT ARGUING WITH YOU. I am NOT acting like Iâm above this!â This is actually sad, my man.
Anyway. Never said it was the same person. Thatâs a straw man. I specifically said âsomeoneâ. What Iâm fighting is this attitude. That âperverts like meâ donât get to have a problem with this, but other people are allowed to have a problem make a âbig enough dealâ that an ethics community made the creators feel like it was ânecessaryâ to change it(his words)
In other words. âLet them happen without opposing them even through something as simple as saying you donât like it in passing.â
So yeah. It is a big deal because people keep making it a big deal.
Keep in mind that, again, I dismissed the comment as âbasically whateverâ and Iâm not the one who drew this picture. You decided to engage me anyway
Then whyâd you ask? Man. Itâs almost like you had no interest in actually hearing what other people said, but only wanted to dump your âtotally correct opinionâ
because you keep putting words in my mouth or just don't know what you're talking about.
âI didnât read it and I donât have the courage to actually engage but hereâs a dismissive statement so I can pretend like Iâm wining anyway because I totally donât care and Iâm totally not going to engage you!â
I'm not wasting more time
Because you arenât pretending like youâre above this. Good for you.
with someone who is clearly too self absorbed
Oh. The ironing.
have any self-awareness about how mad they're being over "whatever."
Sorry buddy. Youâre projecting your mad into me. I just have you the argument that you wanted. Again. I abandoned this. You bright it uo again and made several comments. I was very happy never coming back here again.
But sure. If it makes you feel better to act like me kicking your ass in an argument is me absorbing how angry you are, go ahead. Lol
Anyone else want to totally-not-argue with me or can we drop this like I originally planned?
Yes? No? Iâm down for whatever. Lol
blindVigil said:
The guy writing essays, I'm pretty sure.
Not the people who keep addressing that guy and making points even after he abandoned it?
Someone asked for an explanation and I gave it. You engaged, so I engaged.
And youâre still arguing with me. But sure. Youâre the ultimate âabove it allâ. Tell me all about how much you âarent even going to bother explaining how totally right you areâ
Man, for someone who definitely doesn't want to continue this argument you're basically having with yourself, you sure are commenting three times as much as everyone else here.
Man, for someone who definitely doesn't want to continue this argument you're basically having with yourself, you sure are commenting three times as much as everyone else here.
Before I could even edit my comment you comment again.
For someone making sure everyone knows how much you donât care, you seem to care a lot.
Definitely having it with myself. All the otherâŠwhat 6 people? Are all my alts.
Before I could even edit my comment you comment again.
For someone making sure everyone knows how much you donât care, you seem to care a lot.
Definitely having it with myself. All the otherâŠwhat 6 people? Are all my alts.
How does it feel being me?
Do I care? I'm not the one writing essays to explain how much you don't care while meticulously responding to every comment, even ones not directed at you. The only one actually perpetuating any argument here is you, no one else is trying even a tenth as much as you are.
Do I care? I'm not the one writing essays to explain how much you don't care while meticulously responding to every comment, even ones not directed at you. The only one actually perpetuating any argument here is you, no one else is trying even a tenth as much as you are.
âThe only one perpetuating the the argument is the guy who is not perpetuating the argument or trying, in this commentâ
I never said I didnât care and I never wrote anything like that. So youâre losing this argument that youâre not perpetuating right now.
What I said was, I abandoned this and people decided to engage hours after while pretending they donât care and how silly you people are for doing that.
If people want a fight, when I said I didnât want one, who am I to say no?
I'm just glad we've had this giant surge in Tifa fanart since the remake came along. We were never short on it before but more is always better.
And it came at the expense of everything worth loving about her. She went from something to special to bland and unpleasant.
How does Tifa compare to every girl from a fighting game? In terms of looks, she's rather unremarkable, and no gimmick or style. Even in terms of a JRPG, she's got nothing really going for her. Ayla from Chrono Trigger did the sexy monk thing way better.
It's what's supposed to be the black cloth under her top, I'm pretty sure. Some of my favorite Tifa art joke about that and I think most Remake related art is tagged sports_bra accordingly.
I'm going to need a woman to explain me the difference between a bra and a sport bra, because honestly, I really doubt she went without a bra in the original game. In my experience (reading Mahiru's sister comics), not having a bra causes your nipples to rub against your shirt and it burns or something.
I'm going to need a woman to explain me the difference between a bra and a sport bra, because honestly, I really doubt she went without a bra in the original game. In my experience (reading Mahiru's sister comics), not having a bra causes your nipples to rub against your shirt and it burns or something.
More designed for athletic wear, reducing breast pain and all that (or so I've read). The tag here states "It is intended for wear during vigorous exercise that might cause the breasts to move uncomfortably or excessively, preventing discomfort and potential embarrassment during exercise." she was probably thought of having worn a bra but it's not like the PSX could show off the greatest detail all the time. Compared to her art (apparently I've had 012 Dissidia in mind), it's really not much different in *that* area.
Oh hey. The guy who doesnât know what going on has a very detailed opinion that has nothing to do with the actual issue at hand with Tifa but Iâll be damned if he isnât going to double down on it after running away spectacularly
More designed for athletic wear, reducing breast pain and all that (or so I've read). The tag here states "It is intended for wear during vigorous exercise that might cause the breasts to move uncomfortably or excessively, preventing discomfort and potential embarrassment during exercise." she was probably thought of having worn a bra but it's not like the PSX could show off the greatest detail all the time. Compared to her art (apparently I've had 012 Dissidia in mind), it's really not much different in *that* area.
I see. It does make sense that she'd wear that if she's jumping around. And while I complain about these unsexy black shorts replacing her bountiful white panties, the original game never had that much detail. Come to think of it, adding butts to models is relatively recent, isn't it? Back then, they just wouldn't model the legs entirely.
I see. It does make sense that she'd wear that if she's jumping around. And while I complain about these unsexy black shorts replacing her bountiful white panties, the original game never had that much detail. Come to think of it, adding butts to models is relatively recent, isn't it? Back then, they just wouldn't model the legs entirely.
Spats can have their own appeal to someone's rear in the same way I think, but that's something else entirely. I think it would depend on the game genre and what it called for (though most playable characters wore pants or shorts anyways). If you know it was inevitable to see a character like that, you probably would just model them since it wouldn't be as awkward as The Void. Contrast with Smash Brothers where they limit your camera anyways and have stuck with the void til now? I'm unsure.
Edit: Might've stopped with 4 honestly. Not exactly something I'm dying to find out at the moment.
I see. It does make sense that she'd wear that if she's jumping around. And while I complain about these unsexy black shorts replacing her bountiful white panties, the original game never had that much detail. Come to think of it, adding butts to models is relatively recent, isn't it? Back then, they just wouldn't model the legs entirely.
They censored that too. Along with the shorts, they completely redid the skyscraper staircase sequence to ensure the player could never walk behind Tifa. And they also had a cutscene where Barret picks her up and throws her over his shoulder, while also covering her butt with his gunarm. It was stupid that he picked her up, but the censorship inception compounded it. They don't want you to see her panties, they have her wear shorts, and then they make sure you can't see under her skirt...to see her shorts.
The whole point of a bar hostess wearing a short skirt is to tease the clientle. A woman wearing a skirt with an obvious set of shorts is completely defeating the purpose. You're not going to attract customers that way.
The slums are not a nice place to live. They destroy the value of human life as surely as Shinra's corporate culture. One way or another, you will be stripped of your rights, dignity, and even your life. And the Remake undermines both themes by portraying them as valid life-styles.
I see. It does make sense that she'd wear that if she's jumping around. M
Why wasnât she wearing them in the original game and why is she wearing them now? What changed? What reason did they give?
Why are you hypothesizing a reason when one is actualy directly stated by Nomura? That no one but me has bothered to bring up?
But I mean sure. Go on ignoring me even if of it means actually being dishonest about the actual situation. The vague sense of superiority is worth lying about
Iâll leave. But know that I gave you guys the opportunity to actually engage in discussion about the issues at hand, and you guys decided that arguing about it anyway while ignoring the actual relevant facts was the best course of action. No amount pf downvotes is going to give you your integrity back.
Why wasnât she wearing them in the original game and why is she wearing them now? What changed? What reason did they give?
Why are you hypothesizing a reason when one is actualy directly stated by Nomura? That no one but me has bothered to bring up?
But I mean sure. Go on ignoring me even if of it means actually being dishonest about the actual situation. The vague sense of superiority is worth lying about
I mean, fine. Iâll leave. But know that I have you guys the opportunity to actually engage in discussion about the issues at hand, and you guys decided that arguing about it anyway while ignoring the actual relevant facts was the best course of action. No amount pf downvotes is going to give you your integrity back.
I see. It does make sense that she'd wear that if she's jumping around. And while I complain about these unsexy black shorts replacing her bountiful white panties, the original game never had that much detail. Come to think of it, adding butts to models is relatively recent, isn't it? Back then, they just wouldn't model the legs entirely.
Her skirt was a block in the original game. There were no panties (As you pointed out, the legs weren't modelled entirely).
In Ehrgeiz, they just colored that part of the legs black. Which makes it look like black shorts/spats.
White panties were there for the first Dissidia she was in.
The 2nd Dissidia (NT), it was censored black in there so you couldn't see what it was.
When I think about it, the fact that Ehrgeiz came first means that the black spats are arguably the original (assuming the original game was just technical limitations).
...also, Dissidia NT shows she was "censored" way before FF Remake (kinda odd since Cloud of Darkness was skimpier than anything uncensored Tifa ever would be. I guess they considered panties up the skirt to be more raunchy than a bare thong). Pretty sure her breasts are actually smaller in Dissidia NT than they are in Remake too but I haven't really done pixel by pixel analysis there.
Guys come on. It's not about the body it's about the person and their character as an individual.
Now if they happen to be very buxom, have long, smooth legs, muscular hips, a thin waist, taught abs and toned plump booty then that's just icy on the cake. But luckily Tifa has best of both worlds. She's an empathic, motherly, and reserved young woman. Perfect mother material.
...also, Dissidia NT shows she was "censored" way before FF Remake (kinda odd since Cloud of Darkness was skimpier than anything uncensored Tifa ever would be. I guess they considered panties up the skirt to be more raunchy than a bare thong). Pretty sure her breasts are actually smaller in Dissidia NT than they are in Remake too but I haven't really done pixel by pixel analysis there.
That probably has something to do with CERO. Their neuroticism is truly unrivaled. Guns, violence, and leotard thongs? A-Ok! A low resolution png texture resembling panties under a skirt? The literal fucking devil.
Tifa wearing a sportsbra and spats under her attire makes a lot of sense. It's not only to avoid embarrassment; when you have big tiddies and jump, run, or make ANY intense movement, they HURT. It feels like the skin of your chest is ripping apart.
Also, I'm used to wear spats under my skirts/dresses. Ready to kick ass anytime. (?)