Wait, this is all Ai? How? I see the twitter user writes that they use ai and the resolution is standard, but this has so many details that ai never gets right. Like the lighting, proportions, the bucket and hair pattern.
Wait, this is all Ai? How? I see the twitter user writes that they use ai and the resolution is standard, but this has so many details that ai never gets right. Like the lighting, proportions, the bucket and hair pattern.
Youd' be surprised how quick AI improves. Anyway, look at her fingers holding the milk bottle. The unevenness of the size and detail on the nails is a big red flag that this is AI generated, not to mention that stray lock on her left chest and the strangely jutting piece of cloth in her bathrobe.
Aside from that, her navel is on the wrong position and that milk bottle is missing its rim. A real artist would've at least know how a milk bottle look.
Youd' be surprised how quick AI improves. Anyway, look at her fingers holding the milk bottle. The unevenness of the size and detail on the nails is a big red flag that this is AI generated, not to mention that stray lock on her left chest and the strangely jutting piece of cloth in her bathrobe.
Aside from that, her navel is on the wrong position and that milk bottle is missing its rim. A real artist would've at least know how a milk bottle look.
Yeah, AI still has issues dealing with determining layers and where something is in a given image. It just renders an image like a 2D image.
Youd' be surprised how quick AI improves. Anyway, look at her fingers holding the milk bottle. The unevenness of the size and detail on the nails is a big red flag that this is AI generated, not to mention that stray lock on her left chest and the strangely jutting piece of cloth in her bathrobe.
Aside from that, her navel is on the wrong position and that milk bottle is missing its rim. A real artist would've at least know how a milk bottle look.
I also saw stuff like how the milk flow isn't uniform, her robe having that weird, extra,gravity defying fold and the weird seam line on her left sleeve, but all of these could have been human error, or artistic choice.
It's sad to think that all the art I've followed and admire for years its all ending up to be trash AI, take me back to those days when I saw a cool picture and I didn't even had to question if it was made by a human :(
Do you mean the days you couldn't tell if an artist traced/referenced photos or works from other artists? It was all good when a human did, but when a machine does...
I see no problem because prompts still depend on human creativity, experience, skills and self evaluation (prompter decides if the picture is the desired result or not).
EDIT: Let's travel back to the very origins of Danbooru. Do you see amazuyu_tatsuki credited in there? That artist "borrowed" a design not from him/her and also used many other styles before setting "his/her own style" (in reality is a style imitated from someone else just like the original artist). Still it was liked. Why should you worry from not liking someone else doing the same through a machine? First post maybe used a computer instead of paper and pencil. This artist used a different and more advanced tool than just Photoshop.
Do you mean the days you couldn't tell if an artist traced/referenced photos or works from other artists? It was all good when a human did, but when a machine does...
I swear this isn't the first time you've suggested no one cared when artists manually stole other people's work, despite that just being a blatant lie. Artists get criticized for it all the time. Just because it's not always recognized when it happens doesn't mean it is or was ever "all good."
I see no problem because prompts still depend on human creativity, experience, skills and self evaluation.
Literally no it doesn't. Inputting a prompt requires zero artistic experience or skill. I don't even know what the hell "self-evaluation" is supposed to mean in this context. I swear you only come here to say the most asinine contrarian opinions you can imagine.
EDIT: Let's travel back to the very origins of Danbooru. Do you see amazuyu_tatsuki credited in there? That artist "borrowed" a design not from him/her and also used many other styles before setting "his/her own style" (in reality is a style imitated from someone else just like the original artist). Still it was liked. Why should you worry from not liking someone else doing the same through a machine? First post maybe used a computer instead of paper and pencil. This artist used a different and more advanced tool than just Photoshop.
...Are you suggesting the artist is a thief because he drew a character he didn't create?
No. No no no. You don't get to say "AI art generators using millions of copyrighted art pieces they just scraped off the internet without permission is fine" while also implying that drawing someone else's character or trying to imitate their style of drawing (which is by no means simple or easy, btw) are forms of theft.
Also love how you're still editing your rebuttals into existing comments so they're harder to reply to, and so you can keep being condescending to people with higher comment counts than you. And stop comparing AI generators to Photoshop, Photoshop doesn't do 99% of the work for you. Well, it didn't used to, anyway, before Adobe started implementing AI tools into it.
the above differences could just be human error or artistic choice if this is a real human art, but it gets really uncanny once it gets pointed out that its AI: her ear and mouth is just a hole, with no lips or folds whatsoever
Might be me overthinking things, but the area of her body concealed by the bucket feels like it'd look off if the bucket was removed, like the contour if her body would come out looking off with what is suggested is there. As a lot of artists commonly sketch out the body first without accessories or clothes, especially when it is is an image this detailed, it feels kind of off this would occur.
Might be me overthinking things, but the area of her body concealed by the bucket feels like it'd look off if the bucket was removed, like the contour if her body would come out looking off with what is suggested is there. As a lot of artists commonly sketch out the body first without accessories or clothes, especially when it is is an image this detailed, it feels kind of off this would occur.
Heck, if you look closely at the bucket itself you can see the wood pieces near her body looks weird. Those pieces has extra spacing and rounded edges, unlike the rest of the bucket.
I don't accouse anyone of thieving, you do. If taking characters, styles, designs, photographs, ideas from other artists "for reference" while publishing something at Comiket to earn money, meanwhile the original artist gained nothing from that borrowed creativity and still it was accepted, liked and approved here then there would not be any problem with AI art at all. Danbooru only TEMPORARILY forbid AI art to prevent increasing the moderation work while the line is yet notorious. It's you "drawing experts" that last time couldn't tell a cosplay photograph from AI art that go around witch hunting and pestering people's personal social networks even when they openly admit the image is AI assisted like this one.
I won't change your mind but you can't change mine either. Go around believing the equivalence of "cameras steal people's souls" when progress is imminent. You still have time to move on to Cuba or a Mennonite community and pretend you hate capitalism. If you think generating AI art is easy, then you won't have any problems to investigate and post a prompt here that generates EXACTLY this image. Drawing is not the first career you bet and stops being profitable over the pass of time. They are tools, not permanent solutions for a living... you better start learning how tools the new artists use work.
Please excuse the google translation. Using someone else's character without permission is gray. The author is just silent. Some people were shocked to see their own characters stripped naked and raped. (The author of Gantz has said on Twitter that he wants erotic derivative works to be regulated more than AI.) People called doujin goro who create doujin without permission and earn money are hated by some people, such as Blue Archive recently.
Where this topic comes down to is legislation. At that time, I don't want to see derivative eroticism become a topic of discussion and regulated.
I see no problem because prompts still depend on human creativity, experience, skills and self evaluation (prompter decides if the picture is the desired result or not).
Do you even know what skill and experience mean? You only really need to look at a handful of other drawings to know the art that came out of your prompt looks good, while becoming able to draw with the same level of skill in lineart, shading, anatomy, etc. takes months or years of study and practice. Also, big difference between tracing and referencing. Referencing someone else's art at least still has you putting in the effort to pick up the pencil and actually learn how to use that pencil, tracing doesn't. You're pretty much drawing with a stencil. No skills learned, and its the same with AI. I don't think AI art is bad, in fact I'm glad technology is advancing this far in my lifetime, but to say writing a prompt takes skill is ignorant; just picking up a crayon and trying to draw something better than a stickman should tell you it's not easy to draw. If I'm praising anyone for AI art at all, it'll be the programmers.
Every tool requires skill and at least months of experience for professional results it doesn't matter the simplicity of the tool. For example counting numbers takes years of experience, an accountant is not less an accountant because now he uses Excel instead of paper accounting sheets. They had to learn how to use a PC and do something else than just selecting cells and pressing buttons to do sums, something that anyone (even a child) can do.
You are not an artist because you know how to hold a crayon, run Paint, press a button of your smartphone camera, or write a few words on a prompt. It takes weeks, sometimes years learning and experimenting with tool results until you reach one that is considered a professional work. What will you do when people you consider artists start sketching using AI? Will you call them not an artist anymore because of your biased prejuices and ignorance? More importantly, how do you tell every user writting prompts today doesn't actually know how to draw? Again, prejuices and ignorance. For reaching this image result the author had to learn many other things than just typing words on a prompt, yet you still deny that. Ask any accountant that doesn't know how to turn on a PC what does for a living now. Same for Cobol programmers that never bothered to learn a new language and couldn't find 50 year old corporations to work on. Things change and you have to always learn new things, with an artist is not different.
"But guys, turning on a computer is SO hard! It's not JUST typing a prompt into a text box, you also need to be able to use a keyboard!"
Are you even capable of providing an argument that isn't disingenuous? Modern technology is literally designed to be usable by even the most technologically illiterate. You don't need "skill" to press the power button on a PC. You just need someone to show you where it is. That takes 5 seconds. You don't need to even understand how computers work to use them, user interfaces exist specifically so you never have to think about the backend, much less interact with it.
AI generators do not take months of skill to use. The basic prerequisite skills and knowledge needed to use a fucking computer are not counted in this. If you can access this site, you can use an AI generator to shit out hundreds of soulless "professional" grade works a day, they're the same level of difficulty.
I am still awaiting for your prompt that generates this exact image here. If it's that easy it won't be a problem for you to duplicate this exact work like a Gacha Life artwork. Baffling randomly is not an argument, not that I want to arge on deaf ears on the first place.
How rude. I don't spend my life posting here once a day when I am not stalking random people to engage in random fights because I am so bored I don't have better things to do with life like certain user. However you do have a point. I am dropping this here for now. Work and games won't do by themselves.
If we're going by Makoto Naegi and Nagito Komaeda, luck is a talent and getting lucky with something that isn't shit by spinning the wheel would fall as "talent"? /s
How rude. I don't spend my life posting here once a day when I am not stalking random people to engage in random fights because I am so bored I don't have better things to do with life like certain user. However you do have a point. I am dropping this here for now. Work and games won't do by themselves.
You do this shit constantly. You don't have anything better to do, stop lying. Also no one is stalking you. It's no one's fault but yours that you bring attention to yourself repeatedly by being repeatedly and beligerently ignorant on the topic you are whinging about. "Oh this post keeps coming up for days, and there bunch of negative comments, I wonder who- of course It's rom collector" -every goddamn time.
This whole comment chain is now hilarious in light of the new policy changes with forum #269002.
It's be smarter and simpler to simply require AI-assisted art to need an AI-original version to compare to the finished product. If there isn't one, then just auto-ban it instead of this whole guessing game.