Danbooru

Heterosexual tag

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I already did a search about it and I didn't find anything about it.

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding something, but this tag seems rather vague. Although the wiki description says it's mostly for Touhou, it doesn't specify it's exclusively for it as there are non-Touhou pics with it like post #597021 and post #538665, which come from series that I don't think have a lack of low heterosexual content. If someone were to decide to tag all non-Touhou pics with this, it'd... probably take awhile, especially if we take non-sexual situations into the equation.

To be honest, I would think using specific tag searches would be a lot more useful like touhou sex or something, or at least make it so that the wiki specifies that it's for use for Touhou only. I don't really see the need of the tag myself really, but I'm not against removing it or anything if it could be less vague.

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sex -yuri -yaoi seems like it should work to find anything that people are looking for with heterosexual, and it's only 16 pages in the first place, so I don't see any reason to keep it around.

Edit: Although looking again, it isn't being used according to its wiki definition very often at all. Most heterosexual posts are hand-holding, hugging, and other displays of affection between straight couples, something which is somewhat more difficult to find with a simple tag search.

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glasnost said:
Edit: Although looking again, it isn't being used according to its wiki definition very often at all. Most heterosexual posts are hand-holding, hugging, and other displays of affection between straight couples, something which is somewhat more difficult to find with a simple tag search.

There's a couple tag for that.

I imagine couple wouldn't fit threesome+ images like post #593668 so I guess I can't alias it... so yeah, someone just needs to convert it all. There isn't really a "tag deletion" function so much as having a tag return zero hits. I updated the wiki to point people to more appropriate tags.

Edit: although couple seems to be used in a non-sexual sense most of the time, with the opposite being true for heterosexual. ...well really I don't see why they can't just be sex.

Reviving this thread due to some legitimate complaints sent to me (for some reason) by PM.

The heterosexual tag should be kept and used for one important reason: blacklisting.

As alien as it is to my mind, there are apparently some users who do not want to see images depicting heterosexual couplings - sexual and otherwise - as a default condition.

I realize, of course, that attempting to correctly tag all the applicable posts on Danbooru would be such a tremendously huge undertaking as to be nearly unfeasible... but the reasoning on why it should be done is sound enough.

sgcdonmai said: The heterosexual tag should be kept and used for one important reason: blacklisting.

Blacklisting isn't a good enough reason in itself for adding a tag like this. What if I wanted to blacklist images that mix the colors blue and purple? Honestly, too bad, it doesn't deserve a tag.

So if people want to avoid all hetero images, they can add yuri or yaoi to their searches. The overwhelming majority of sexual images on danbooru are hetero and that's just something people have to deal with.

And I say this as a phenomenally huge yuri supporter, btw.

I would think it still deserves a tag. Just because something can be approximated with other tags doesn't really make it entirely unnecessary, IMO. There is quite a bit of grey area, but that applies to everything, I would think.

jxh2154 said:
Blacklisting isn't a good enough reason in itself for adding a tag like this. What if I wanted to blacklist images that mix the colors blue and purple? Honestly, too bad, it doesn't deserve a tag.

So if people want to avoid all hetero images, they can add yuri or yaoi to their searches. The overwhelming majority of sexual images on danbooru are hetero and that's just something people have to deal with.

And I say this as a phenomenally huge yuri supporter, btw.

False. Even in images with the "yuri" tag, hetero images still appear (evidently due to male involvement. It tends to make things more frustrating. >.> Just simply adding "Yaoi" or "Yuri" to a search, it doesn't even help the matter.)

I've also noticed that several of you have tried to justify excluding the heterosexual tag simply because you can find heterosexual images by omitting out yuri and yaoi tags.

The purpose for the tag is so that /heterosexual/ images can be blacklisted. You may say that this isn't a good reason for including the tag; however, that is just an excuse to try and force a heteronormative mentality upon the visitors of this site, who may actually just wish to escape this frustrating and annoying force applied in /real/ life, and perhaps cater to their imaginations as an escape.

(I realize this sounds contradictory to things said prior. Please excuse those prior words and let us start fresh.)

The reason most art on here is heterosexual is because a majority of artists tend to draw heterosexual works, both male and female. Even artists who may also draw a bit of yuri or yaoi may also specialize in drawing heterosexual images, and do so for self-expression.

It may seem redundant add the tag because it's easier to just omit yuri and yaoi tags to find heterosexual images, but the point being not everyone wants to see heterosexual images all the time (and some, not even at all.), so adding the tag helps improve the nature of the site by catering to a wider audience. Thus, it isn't redundant necessarily.

One person argued that the "female" tag was without purpose, but that's not necessarily true. Some people may want to search "Female solo" and find images they are looking for. Same goes for the "male" tag.

Now, lastly, in conclusion, including the "heterosexual" tag broadens the appeal of this place, and allows people to choose to omit this tag depending on mood, or simply to use the tag to gain more accurate results.

Plus, not everyone can use three tags. Some people just stick with basic, free accounts.

However redundant it may seem, the more tags mean more specific searches, and thus make things more user-friendly. So don't be shy of including certain tags, because people may use different ways to search for the same results, and the more specific the better.

Lastly, color is a different matter. It is irrelevant to the basis of this site (other than fetishes for eye and hair color), and tags like "Heterosexual" (which may be added to probably millions of images) may need to be included for the purpose of blacklisting or omitting. (It's a viable reason, so denying the tag's purpose is not useful.) Lastly, this "deal with it" really doesn't apply. It won't really help matters, and merely enforces the already established thought above.

Everyone has different temperaments, and things that frustrate them. For example, some of you may absolutely hate yaoi entirely. The tag is easily able to be blacklisted for your case. So, why are yaoi and yuri images able to be easily blacklisted, but not straight and heterosexual images? It seems to be an obvious flaw from this standpoint. Bottom line: People have different tastes; the point of this site is to cater to those tastes. Inclusion of tags allows for specifics and thus caters to a wider variety of tastes. Thus, tags best not fall out of use simply because it seems to serve no purpose (because of the diversity of peoples' tastes, the tag will always serve a purpose one way or another).

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Fuck your blacklist.

I don't see any reason why we need to make it easier for people to blacklist stupid shit like this. Guro, pissing, tentacles, stuff like that, sure, I can see an argument for wanting it blacklisted, but heterosexual sex? If you can't handle that, just stay off the site.

Fencedude said:
Fuck your blacklist.

I don't see any reason why we need to make it easier for people to blacklist stupid shit like this. Guro, pissing, tentacles, stuff like that, sure, I can see an argument for wanting it blacklisted, but heterosexual sex? If you can't handle that, just stay off the site.

Congratulations, you've just proven my point.

H-Leviathan said:
The purpose for the tag is so that /heterosexual/ images can be blacklisted. You may say that this isn't a good reason for including the tag; however, that is just an excuse to try and force a heteronormative mentality upon the visitors of this site, who may actually just wish to escape this frustrating and annoying force applied in /real/ life, and perhaps cater to their imaginations as an escape.

Getting all pissy over heterosexual activity is no better than someone who freaks out over homosexual activity. The heteronormative mindset can be highly obnoxious (and I say this as a straight male), but we're not going to tag every heterosexual image on the site because you have your underwear in a twist over it.

You can darn well deal with it.

Fencedude said:
Getting all pissy over heterosexual activity is no better than someone who freaks out over homosexual activity. The heteronormative mindset can be highly obnoxious (and I say this as a straight male), but we're not going to tag every heterosexual image on the site because you have your underwear in a twist over it.

You can darn well deal with it.

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I believe the site wishes to gain more viewers and feature more members. In order to do that, including more tags is essential. Viewers here all have different tastes and likes.

You seem to believe that the purpose of the tag is to benefit simply one person.

Interestingly enough, considering that there may actually be a significant number of people who come here often, your thought on the matter doesn't contribute anything to the actual circumstance, and you may have a handful of people with the same issue. I'm saying people have different tastes and moods, and may want to see different things from time to time, so diversity among tags is essential for user-friendliness.

Now, I ask you to calm down and not respond in frustration. And, I ask you to look at the tags. It seems obvious that "yuri" and "yaoi" can be easily blacklisted. If "straight" or "heterosexual" can also be blacklisted, someone may amusingly blacklist or negate all three tags to see how many results come up.

Look. Let's just stop arguing. The tag must be included (even if it's a pain to add) simply for more specific searches, and perhaps just for the point of including the tag. People may actually laugh at the inclusion of the "heterosexual" tag and find this place has more than a few ways to express a sense of humor.

The principle problem with heterosexual (and solo, 2girls, female, etc.) is that they are so common that they will never be adequately used for their intended purposes.

People are lazy taggers and they are laziest with things that are known to be super common (partly because they are poor tags in the sense that they poorly discriminate the content of the site).

Until such time that these tags can be done automatically (which is problematic in itself) or at least semi-automatically, they will fail to be useful for their intended purposes.

I'm not for killing the tag, information loss is bad, but I'm not going to be using it either, since it's pretty much a futile gesture at this point.

H-Leviathan said:
You may say that this isn't a good reason for including the tag; however, that is just an excuse to try and force a heteronormative mentality upon the visitors of this site, who may actually just wish to escape this frustrating and annoying force applied in /real/ life, and perhaps cater to their imaginations as an escape.

You lost the argument the moment you wrote this dreck.

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