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New Tag: completely_nude

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The discussion in forum #70162 reminded me of a tag I wanted to propose. Now seems like a good a time as any.

Currently, the nude tag is applied in any case where where a person is not wearing a top or a bottom, including cases where they are wearing things like thighhighs (post #104630) or detached sleeves (post #1049395)

I have nothing against this, mind you. It makes sense, since they really are pretty much nude in such cases. However, due to popularity in images like the above, I (and possibly many others) have taken a liking to images where the girl in an image is completely nude. Now, instead of tagging every post in such a case nude bare_shoulders bare_legs bare_arms etc, I think we should just use a single tag. I used completely_nude in the title, but if anyone can think of a better name, feel free.

Also, I know that Danbooru has a policy where we don't suggest tags or pools to make searches easier for regular members, but this isn't really my goal here. Personally, if this tag is made, I would subscribe to it. You currently are unable to subscribe to a tag search (otherwise I might subscribe to a topless boxing_gloves search), and even then, people might not be willing to put all of the bare_* tags on an image when uploading or tag gardening (actually, tag gardeners might, but they still can't get to every single image).

Anyone have any objections to the idea?

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I would say yes, due to the fact that you can't really tell if she's wearing something over her legs or not in an image like that (which really leaves me to question why people tag things like that as nude instead of topless). You could also argue this in cases where you can't see a girl's feet like post #1052099.

EDIT: Then again, there are also cases like post #1049768 where you can't completely tell, but logic would dictate that no, she's not wearing anything at all (in this case, why would you wear shoes or socks when bathing?)

Algasir said:
However, due to popularity in images like the above, I (and possibly many others) have taken a liking to images where the girl in an image is completely nude.

Are you sure it's that popular?
nude 2538 pages.
nude -thighhighs -kneehighs -socks -gloves -detached_sleeves 2082 pages.

The same for solo images. (I had to remove 1 tag because of the search limit)
nude chartags:1 ~thighhighs ~kneehighs ~socks ~gloves 204 pages.
nude chartags:1 -thighhighs -kneehighs -socks -gloves 1080 pages.

Those are most prominent tags that I could think of

If you simply search for nude, 4 out of 5 images will be what your want. (unless I missed some huge tag)
To me, your suggestion sounds like "tagging the normal/usual instead of tagging what is unusual". You know, like tagging all girls on danbooru "female" instead of tagging men "male".

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Algasir said:
(which really leaves me to question why people tag things like that as nude instead of topless). You could also argue this in cases where you can't see a girl's feet like post #1052099.

It's simply.
It's based on Danbooru's "Tag what you see" policy and assumptions.

topless: Topless is for images where a character is not wearing any upper-body clothing, but is still wearing some form of lower-body clothing. [stolen from the bottomless wiki and changed a bit)

An image can only be tagged topless if there is proof of lower-body clothing in the image.

Why tag it nude? Tag what you see. If every part of skin shown in the image is bare, the rest of the character's skin is assumed to be bare as well -> nude.
Additionally, posts like that one should be tagged bust.

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I don't really agree with that kind of assumption, but whatever.

In that main search, I saw quite a few images with towels, armor, and other small forms of clothing.

Though, now that I look at it, a nude barefoot search seems to be more of what I'm REALLY looking for, with only some fluff. That still leaves out a personal problem with being unable to subscribe to it. I can't remember, was Danbooru 2 supposed to have that feature?

+1. Even with nude -thighhighs -kneehighs -socks -gloves -detached_sleeves, about 20% of the posts still have some piece of clothing on.

Also, the difference between topless boxing_gloves and completely_nude to nude is the former is very specific, as where nude only specifies, generally, the character is topless and bottomless. Unless you make a tag that aliases every clothing tag to cloths or something like that, completely_nude isn't achievable otherwise.

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ion288 said:
Defining this tag isn't easy.

What about these as new definitions?

nude:

The state of wearing no garments, or almost none.

An image can still count as nude with thighhighs, detached_sleeves or shoes being worn, or with a jacket draped over the shoulders.
If there are no garments that cover the skin at all and most of the body can be seen, use completely_nude as well.

completely_nude:

The state of wearing absolutely no garments.
To qualify, at least two-thirds of the body should be visible (not out of frame or hidden behind an object), and nothing that covers up the skin should be worn by the character.

Thighhighs, detached_sleeves and shoes all cover up the skin and disqualify someone from being completely_nude.
Wearing hair_ornaments or other things which do not obscure skin can still count as completely_nude.

The reason I added that "two-thirds of the body" part is because posts like post #1306761 and post #1345881 don't give off a completely nude feeling, they could be wearing clothes we can't see. But maybe that's just me.

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