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How do I tag this?

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henmere said:

takeda_bishi

Takeda-bishi ("Takeda rhombuses") is the variant unique for the Takeda clan though. It's their mon. It can also be used to refer to the non-simplified 'hanabishi' variant, which has four actual 'karahana' flower petals arranged in the same pattern instead of simplified rhombuses.

I would prefer yotsuwari-bishi instead, because it specifically refers to the simplified pattern. Plus it is a more neutral name ("Quartered rhombus") that describes the pattern exactly and is divorced of the Takeda association.

I would also recommend an overall hishi tag for all the "Japanese rhombus variants", with diamond_pattern_(Japanese) aliased to it as a utility alias. All the hishi/bishi variants can then be implicated to this tag. This tag can also be used to tag the Mitsubishi logo, which has, well, "three hishis" (it's also what Mitsubishi literally means, with hishi undergoing a rendaku sound change to bishi).

This proposed hishi) tag should then be included into the "tag group:image composition" wiki along with the other Japanese patterns, with its variants included (under 'sub-bullet points').

We could also perhaps use bishi instead to make the association clearer for people unfamiliar with Japanese sound changes (and IIRC most of the "X-hishi" patterns have the same sound change to "X-bishi"), though I am worried some people might confuse it for "bishie" (anglicized slang term of bishounen). Perhaps we can use bishi_(pattern) then, with the additional qualifier.

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NNescio said:

Takeda-bishi ("Takeda rhombuses") is the variant unique for the Takeda clan though. It's their mon. It can also be used to refer to the non-simplified 'hanabishi' variant, which has four actual 'karahana' flower petals arranged in the same pattern instead of simplified rhombuses.

I would prefer yotsuwari-bishi instead, because it specifically refers to the simplified pattern. Plus it is a more neutral name ("Quartered rhombus") that describes the pattern exactly and is divorced of the Takeda association.

I would also recommend an overall hishi tag for all the "Japanese rhombus variants", with diamond_pattern_(Japanese) aliased to it as a utility alias. All the hishi/bishi variants can then be implicated to this tag. This tag can also be used to tag the Mitsubishi logo, which has, well, "three hishis" (it's also what Mitsubishi literally means, with hishi undergoing a rendaku sound change to bishi).

This proposed hishi) tag should then be included into the "tag group:image composition" wiki along with the other Japanese patterns, with its variants included (under 'sub-bullet points').

We could also perhaps use bishi instead to make the association clearer for people unfamiliar with Japanese sound changes (and IIRC most of the "X-hishi" patterns have the same sound change to "X-bishi"), though I am worried some people might confuse it for "bishie" (anglicized slang term of bishounen). Perhaps we can use bishi_(pattern) then, with the additional qualifier.

Thanks for a thorough answer, but what tag should we use/create then?

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90sAnimeFan said:

Thanks for a thorough answer, but what tag should we use/create then?

Tag it yotsuwari-bishi for now (creating a new tag in the process). We'll figure out whether to use hishi or bishi for all the rhombus patterns later. Probably open a new forum to discuss the latter, preferably with extra examples.

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Talulah said:

There is absolutely no indication that the artist is Japanese.
I don't see a reason we need separate tags for this, why isn't there just one general anonymous artist tag? drawfag isn't exactly the most obvious name for anonymous artists to begin with.

Ah, I thought the commentary was in Japanese from the artist. My bad.

I would support merging the anonymous_(nationality) tags.

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drawfag and colorfag are distinct because due to the nature of those sites the default is to be anonymous unless they specify a name. Compare the size of drawfag vs a potential tag for voluntarily anonymous commission artists. It would just become "drawfag + 2 random artists".

It's called "drawfag" and not "anonymous imageboard artist" simply because everyone calls them that.

There's also the issue that people might use a generic "anonymous artist" tag as replacement for artist request/not making artist tags.

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Ambivalent. Think those are intended for imageboard artists in particular.

A general anonymous artist would be pretty much unnecessary. We could just leave it untagged then. Only reason to have an anonymous_artist tag would be... I guess, to hint at other users that the artist wants to stay anonymous.

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nonamethanks said:

There's also the issue that people might use a generic "anonymous artist" tag as replacement for artist request/not making artist tags.

That too.

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