Yes, which is how I think it should be. As long as you're uploading good posts that are all being approved, I see no reason for you to be limited.
This also means that promising users will be discovered faster. Not only is it easier to spot, but I've seen a lot of non-unlimited users that still had stuff to upload but their upload limit was full to that point in time. Imo, having a flexible limit is much more beneficial than having a frigid limit that doesn't butcher (and only goes down when you mess up and not up when you're doing great).
The current system, as I've mentioned in the past, isn't really fair.
The proposed system isreally only dependant on the activity of approvers and approvers have now a higher incentive to approve post as they would otherwise lose that right pretty fast. There are also approvers all around the globe (America, Europe and Asia are all regions that at least have one approver I know about and together they cover every time zone and even overlap each other). Meaning no user should have the advantage of being in a specific time zone.
The method @evazion described seems like a throwback to the pre-2015 formula but with the addition of a hard ceiling on the number of pending uploads. The old way of computing upload limits had the advantages of simplicity and making uploaders earn their limits rather than handing out 50 slots to everyone.
I'm not a huge fan of weighing all uploads equally (if I'm trying to gauge an uploader's reliability, I'd rather look at their deletions and approvals from ten weeks ago than those from ten years ago) but for most users, looking at their entire post history instead of the past few months probably won't make a huge difference.
Would it be possible to add a new feature that calculates what a user's upload limit would hypothetically be (or just totals the number of their approvals and deletions, and shows the ratio thereof) if posts before a specified date are ignored?
Of course, you can probably count those numbers with a bit more effort already by searching the right metatags, but that sounds like it would help anyone who uses the current upload limit to as a quick way to gauge an uploader's recent reliability.
A trial version will be deployed on Monday. You'll be able to see what your new limit will be under the new system, but the old system still be used for determining your actual upload limit. After a week or two the old system will be removed and the new system will take effect.
A trial version will be deployed on Monday. You'll be able to see what your new limit will be under the new system, but the old system still be used for determining your actual upload limit. After a week or two the old system will be removed and the new system will take effect.
The new system is up. You can check your profile to see your limit under the new system.
On profiles you'll see something like this: "New Upload Limit: 3 / 16". In this example the user is using 3 out of 16 upload slots. If you hover over the 16, you might see something like "Next level: 7 / 12 approvals". This means the user needs 12 approvals to unlock the next upload slot, and they already have 7.
There have been a couple changes since the original description of the system:
Now both pending posts and early deletions (posts manually deleted before the 3 day mark) count against your upload limit.
If one of your old uploads is undeleted, your limit is recalculated like the post had never been deleted.
If one of your old uploads is flagged and deleted, your limit is recalculated like the post had never been approved.
Internally the system is now based on a system of levels and points. You gain points when a post is approved and you lose points when a post is deleted. Your level is determined by how many points you have. For most purposes you don't need to worry about this, all you need to know is that 1) you lose a slot roughly every 3 deletions and 2) you gain slots based on approvals. You need 10 approvals to gain the first slot, then 12 for the next slot, then 14, 16, 18, etc.
Btw. should the "New upload limit" line really be displayed on user pages that are already unlimited?
And while it sounds nitpicky, I still wanted to say that this change is much welcomed on my part. I also hope that approvers now have actual incentive to approve stuff quickly because they can help the user directly with that.
Umm so basically unrestricted upload privilege now rendered obsolete? I mean, if your posts need to be approved from now on then this privilege is basically useless.
Umm so basically unrestricted upload privilege now rendered obsolete? I mean, if your posts need to be approved from now on then this privilege is basically useless.
If you are unrestricted then this change won't affect you at all.
Umm so basically unrestricted upload privilege now rendered obsolete? I mean, if your posts need to be approved from now on then this privilege is basically useless.
New limits only affect what you send to the mod queue, as far as I am aware.
Umm so basically unrestricted upload privilege now rendered obsolete? I mean, if your posts need to be approved from now on then this privilege is basically useless.
If you are a good uploader then limits shouldn't affect users at all. They do great work, they shouldn#t be capped. And they get unlimited faster that way. It rewards good behavior.
In the meantime it punishes bad behavior, like the upload cap for the worst deletion rates has been reduced from 10 to 5.
What about users who's uploads are deleted simply because they're forgotten or not to the majorities taste?
I upload male character artwork and I have been at the 10 base limit for over half a year now, and it doesn't seem to be changing because I have over 200 posts deleted, over half of which are good quality but just deleted because they weren't approved (including official artwork).
I don't think it's fair to limit users of interests other than cute girls even more.. It's already hard enough being here to be honest and now I go from 10 to 5 uploads only.. Thoughts?
What about users who's uploads are deleted simply because they're forgotten or not to the majorities taste?
I upload male character artwork and I have been at the 10 base limit for over half a year now, and it doesn't seem to be changing because I have over 200 posts deleted, over half of which are good quality but just deleted because they weren't approved.
I don't think it's fair to limit users of interests other than cute girls even more.. It's already hard enough being here to be honest.. Thoughts?
Honestly, most of your uploads are simply unappealing. Yesterday I've uploaded male focussed art and also today. There's zero bias against that stuff.
My thoughts are: Git gud. If necessary, then ask in a polite manner. Don't insinuate bad faith.
Honestly, most of your uploads are simply unappealing. Yesterday I've uploaded male focussed art and also today. There's zero bias against that stuff.
My thoughts are: Git gud. If necessary, then ask in a polite manner. Don't insinuate bad faith.
Isn't being unappealing pretty subjective? I mean most of my posts are from tweets that have thousands of likes which means they're at least likeable, not to mention even a lot of objectively great quality pieces like post #3729700post #3744360post #3695138post #3607112 and post #3729709 got deleted. I don't have time to go through them all anymore like I used to, so it built up even more. Not to mention I have over 700 uploads approved so saying "most" of my uploads are unappealing is pretty harsh..
Of course I didn't know much at first and uploaded questionable and explicit art which got deleted too, but I've been avoiding nsfw mostly for months, and yet everything stays the same.
I'm sorry for sounding whiny, I really just want to solve this issue but it seems the whole system just isn't welcoming to new users at all, especially when they're not interested in girls (which mostly get auto approved, even a lot of nsfw posts which I was told the community here is not a fan of). As a 7 month user I have observed only a handful of approvers names on my uploads, or are approvers only like 10 people? So I just naturally put two and two together.
Thanks for the quick reply though, this news was just pretty surprising and frustrating to be honest.
Isn't being unappealing pretty subjective? I mean most of my posts are from tweets that have thousands of likes which means they're at least likeable, not to mention even a lot of objectively great quality pieces like post #3729700post #3744360post #3695138post #3607112 and post #3729709 got deleted. I don't have time to go through them all anymore like I used to, so it built up even more. Not to mention I have over 700 uploads approved so saying "most" of my uploads are unappealing is pretty harsh..
Of course I didn't know much at first and uploaded questionable and explicit art which got deleted too, but I've been avoiding nsfw mostly for months, and yet everything stays the same.
I'm sorry for sounding whiny, I really just want to solve this issue but it seems the whole system just isn't welcoming to new users at all, especially when they're not interested in girls (which mostly get auto approved, even a lot of nsfw posts which I was told the community here is not a fan of). As a 7 month user I have observed only a handful of approvers names on my uploads, or are approvers only like 10 people? So I just naturally put two and two together.
Thanks for the quick reply though, this news was just pretty surprising and frustrating to be honest.
I'll take a major look at your uploads now. If you've still questions about some posts, don't hesitate to ask in the other topic.
E: Done I have to make sure that I was also not doing great the last few months. Mainly because the workload was way too high for me to keep up. Looking through 100 images is really taxing over time, especially when there are absolute awful images amongst those (I don'T think I'd say your current upload from the last months are awful, though).
The (new) system falls apart if there no approvers to look through the posts. Moreso in this new system because users are supposed to get a slot back after an approval. We've gotten new approvers lately and I think the workload has overall reduced because more users are actively approving now and that also motivates older approvers to restart again and they don't just do the obligatory daily approval..
