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Cyberia-Mix said:
I was thinking of simply knifed (or whatever word you want), for any post where a character was hit by a throwing knife/dagger/etc. for comical purposes.

+1, including reserving it for the cartoon violence trope.
I think things like post #371711 are a different thing altogether (probably just knife + wound), which is part of why I thought the pool was ill defined.

RaymooHakurei said:
Well, now that were at the subject of controversies, dyu guys think its better if we combine pool #2353 and pool #1882? Both are basically doing the same purpose anyway.

I think so, and tighten up the criteria, there's a few in the ex one like post #795831 which have only half ex-bosses, half not. Posts like post #802620 which make a point of saying all the ex bosses are there would be borderline but count if you ask me (since in the comic, all the ex-bosses are gathering to beat up on Marisa).

RaymooHakurei said: pool #2630. Empty.

We don't delete pools that have had their posts deleted.

RaymooHakurei said:
pool #1922 - Touhou - 30 vs 8 Million (wi-z garage)
Never even updated, might as well nuke it out

A manga pool, why would it be deleted? It's a means to string the pages together.

RaymooHakurei said:
Do you guys think it's better if we combine pool #2353 and pool #1882? Both are basically doing the same purpose anyway.

Touhou stage gathering and ex gathering, yeah, I'd love to combine them too.

rantuyetmai said:
We don't delete pools that have had their posts deleted.

mkay

rantuyetmai said:
A manga pool, why would it be deleted? It's a means to string the pages together.

well, seeing that it hasn't been updated, I'll fill the others in

pool #1851 - Minorities!

Yes there are minorities in art... do we honestly need to set them in a pool? (Theoretically, any Garterbelt_(psg) would fit, and similar). Hell, all yuri/yaoi images are technically minorities too (but doesn't fit under the pool rules. That, and if we do need to point them out, a tag would work better.

KWSN said:
pool #1851 - Minorities!

Arrei said:
That one showed up here before and it was deemed poolable. Though it did cause a name change.

It's still terrible, though. Characters with "an ethnic background other than European or East Asian" are not "minorities" by any sane definition of the word. It seems to me like a completely arbitrary inclusion/exclusion of ethnicities.

On top of that, while I'm certainly no racial anthropologist, I have a hard time seeing evidence of a particular race or ethnicity in a lot of the posts in the pool, e.g. post #397240, post #304031, post #299039, post #165579, post #570057, post #701903, post #574462, post #449972, post #662627, post #610701, post #103333, post #653548. If the pool is going to stay it should require clear racial or ethnic features to be present, and those are rare in general, making the exclusion of e.g. China and Korea even more arbitrary.

I don't really have a strong opinion about it, but I don't think the pool as it stands is a grouping of related concepts that makes categorical sense.

zatchii said:
It's still terrible, though. Characters with "an ethnic background other than European or East Asian" are not "minorities" by any sane definition of the word. It seems to me like a completely arbitrary inclusion/exclusion of ethnicities.

On top of that, while I'm certainly no racial anthropologist, I have a hard time seeing evidence of a particular race or ethnicity in a lot of the posts in the pool, e.g. post #397240, post #304031, post #299039, post #165579, post #570057, post #701903, post #574462, post #449972, post #662627, post #610701, post #103333, post #653548. If the pool is going to stay it should require clear racial or ethnic features to be present, and those are rare in general, making the exclusion of e.g. China and Korea even more arbitrary.

I don't really have a strong opinion about it, but I don't think the pool as it stands is a grouping of related concepts that makes categorical sense.

The posts you listed from the pool all qualify as minorities because they belong to the least represented ethnic groups present in anime, manga video games and japan, NOT real world statistics. The posts you listed are all KNOWN minorites based on the backgrounds provided from each of their respective media. I wasn't going to defend it initially, since I pretty much thought it was obvious that the pool implied a specific circumstance (i.e. a minority pool on danbooru = minorities in anime, manga, video games, and japan), but since you and the other poster have concerns, here I am to defend. There are no such things as racial anthropologists by the way.

Iceburger said:
The posts you listed are all KNOWN minorites based on the backgrounds provided from each of their respective media.

If the goal of the pool is to collect pictures of characters who are canonically known to be members of an underrepresented ethnic group, then it serves no more purpose that a pool whose goal is to collect pictures of Touhou characters. That sort of grouping is much better accomplished by a tag subscription.

On the other hand, if the goal of the pool is to collect pictures of characters who visibly manifest some physical trait identifying them as a member of an underrepresented ethnic group, then it would probably be better as a series of tags corresponding to those physical traits (whatever they may be).

Iceburger said:
There are no such things as racial anthropologists by the way.

Actually, there are, but it turns out they're all neo-Nazis. I think we both knew what zatchii was getting at, though, so it's cool.

glasnost said:
If the goal of the pool is to collect pictures of characters who are canonically known to be members of an underrepresented ethnic group, then it serves no more purpose that a pool whose goal is to collect pictures of Touhou characters. That sort of grouping is much better accomplished by a tag subscription.

Edit: written during rantuyetmai's post
I'll admit, that that was the goal of the pool and if that's grounds for deleting it, then by all means, do. I stated before,a long time ago, that the pools I made were an effort to present themes that couldn't be summed up through a simple tag search. That's what I figured a pool should be; an idea or theme that exists, which due to it's nature, can't be tagged. If I'm wrong about that, then feel free to delete away.

KWSN said:
pool #1431 - ZE!!!

Yeah yeah, will be controversial, but like mukyuu could easily be satisfied by a tag if you ask me.

The mukyuu tag gets every occurrence you can find on the site. pool #1431 only keeps major ones (because the use is wider, and the minor ones are completely diluted in the middle of conversations) and becomes kind of subjective.

Also please run a forum search of the pool number before posting. Would avoid to bring up already solved cases several times.

Cyberia-Mix said:
The mukyuu tag gets every occurrence you can find on the site. pool #1431 only keeps major ones (because the use is wider, and the minor ones are completely diluted in the middle of conversations) and becomes kind of subjective.

Also please run a forum search of the pool number before posting. Would avoid to bring up already solved cases several times.

Fair enough, but could it at the very least be re-named to "Touhou - ZE!!!" in accordance with naming standards (unless there's plans to make it broader).

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