Why is this whole pool being flagged? The story looks hilarious enough and there's nothing wrong with the art. It's just a style; a style that happens to be very sketchy.

Agreed. I appealed one of the posts, but users are only allowed one appeal per day.

Tewi's "Oh crap" face made me chuckle.

Moonspeaker said:
Agreed. I appealed one of the posts, but users are only allowed one appeal per day.

Flags, on the otherhand...
People should just lose those privilidges after enough strikes

There's been a rush of people (a person?) flagging things for deletion recently whereas I've never really seen a flagged image prior to a month ago or so. Moreover, and this may just be my subject bias, I've seen mostly Touhou things flagged.

still looks better than if i drew it -_-

Don't hate on people who flag stuff. If something is truly good, then it should be able to get re-evaluated without much trouble.

FJH said:
There's been a rush of people (a person?) flagging things for deletion recently whereas I've never really seen a flagged image prior to a month ago or so. Moreover, and this may just be my subject bias, I've seen mostly Touhou things flagged.

I think it's more that someone finally got the gall to do it. With what seemed like a horde of Contributors (led forth by the mighty Mr_GT), Danbooru flooded up with tons of manga, which slowly slid from being uploaded for their quality art to being based on their content. In either case, it really isn't the purpose of this site...I believe it even says not to upload Manga in the How to Upload guide. I believe Danbooru should be for single-scene, high-quality artwort. But, at the same time, I'd frequent a Mangabooru...if it weren't shut down in a matter of days.

While I don't really approve of the sudden, brute-force methods by which it's being done (and I'm sure the moderators are loving having their queues spammed), I do think it needs to be done. As for Touhou, that's a byproduct of the sheer amount of content released for it and the polarity of our userbase.

Shintear said:
Don't hate on people who flag stuff. If something is truly good, then it should be able to get re-evaluated without much trouble.

Thats a seriously flawed argument. It was approved and people like it. People shouldn't be wasting mods god damn time with flagging something they don't THINK meets standards.
It should become required to post that someone reads the howto Flag to even be able to do so.

I'm sure the mods already understand the rules of danbooru, what should be uploaded and what shouldn't. That is why they approved these pics in the fist place, right? Wouldn't people flagging this later kinda overrule mods' authority?

Well Im pretty sure the ones that flag these are mods as well. Some don't meet standards after all. People have different tastes some might like certain art some might dislike it. It depends on who who approves the post first as ideals are different. So are they gonna have to let two mods approve posts to settle quality control perhaps?

There are some cases where second opinion should come into play or the occasion where something that was approved by one mod has been brought up and essentially reversed by another.

The mods are not infallible and don't always rule according to the law. They're human with their own biases and have been known to intentionally and unintentionally approve some lackluster or even awful stuff. In which case it's only fair to review those approvals.

For me, I don't care if these pictures will be kick out or else, but should the flaggers need to consider the works that the uploader and the translators have done for the flagged posts? Because you see, this image shall be deleted because this was "poorly drawn", but if it's "poorly drawn" why did the mods approved it in the first place? Flaggers should be more rational for their reasons if they want posts to get kick, reasons like a plain "poorly drawn" is almost the same as "I don't like it", if you'll just going to flag the picture why give the best reason why pictures like this should be flagged to avoid furthermore conflicts. If you want the best for this site you should give your best as well.

You guys need to understand that danbooru can't host every single comic from pixiv, though I agree with 01Sherlock on this particular one.

Listen to saito000 (e: and UnderneathTheWaves!).

Yep, exactly what saito000 and UnderneathTheWaves said.

Lunatic6 said:
Flaggers should be more rational for their reasons if they want posts to get kick, reasons like a plain "poorly drawn" is almost the same as "I don't like it", if you'll just going to flag the picture why give the best reason why pictures like this should be flagged to avoid furthermore conflicts. If you want the best for this site you should give your best as well.

Flagging reasons are only directed towards mods, and mods understand pretty well what "poorly drawn" means depending on the image.

Cyberia-Mix said:
Flagging reasons are only directed towards mods, and mods understand pretty well what "poorly drawn" means depending on the image.

That explains, the only thing that bugs is that some other users may not understand thus it will result another argument, its kinda annoying to see comments on flagged images that suppose to be an insult to the flaggers since the flaggers just doing there job.

Lunatic6 said:
That explains, the only thing that bugs is that some other users may not understand thus it will result another argument, its kinda annoying to see comments on flagged images that suppose to be an insult to the flaggers since the flaggers just doing there job.

I agree that's a problem, but I'm not sure doing what on the flaggers' part will prevent that. I'm quite sure that no matter how detailed the reasons for flagging are, defiant people will still call them "any reason not to like the image" and the flaggers "trying to be heroes of justice" and such.

Forgive me about my earlier post, if it offended anyone. I understand what the problem is, but I think the flaggers should give a proper reasoning, not just "poor art" or "too many words".

At least please start a discussion at the forum about this. Inform us about any cleanup that's about to happen. Maybe you can use the discussion in the forum as a reasoning for flagging things.

Btw, there's a lot of pics from 4-5 years ago that needs to be be flagged. I think the flaggers should focus on the older post instead of the recent ones.

There does exist a forum page to discuss things like that, so there will be no need to start a fresh one. I think it does make a good practice to discuss with admins and mods and possibly other users, since it makes the argument fairer for counting the supporters for flagging and appealing as well. In fact the Luna-something pool was indeed discussed in great lengths (though with lots of emotions) too.

makkun said:
snipping to save space

More detailed flags would be best, yes - but certain images are, without a doubt, badly drawn, and still they get appealed and fervently defended, all too likely because it's Touhou. I can't say this entire pool is delete-worthy, personally, but quite a lot of it is - I find page 4 to be just fine, for example, but page 2 is just heinous.

Don't get me wrong, I love Touhou too, but quite a few subpar images get through that would have never been given a pass had they been featuring other characters instead. Understandable, given that Touhou makes up a huge amount of the posts here, but that doesn't mean it should get judged more leniently.

And people have been occasionally diving into the ancient posts to look for old images that don't meet the standards, I've seen them popping up in my searches for flagged images. But there's quite a bit of stuff to sift through in there, you know?

Lunatic6 said:
That explains, the only thing that bugs is that some other users may not understand thus it will result another argument, its kinda annoying to see comments on flagged images that suppose to be an insult to the flaggers since the flaggers just doing there job.

The thing is, complainers are in a state of cluelessness about how danbooru operates that isn't going to be solved simply with detailed flagging reasons and occasional comments. You need to spend a considerable amount of time reading the wiki and lurking the forum for this, and if you're not willing to make the effort there's not much mods can do about you other than telling you to stfu or move to a better booru.

makkun said:
Btw, there's a lot of pics from 4-5 years ago that needs to be be flagged. I think the flaggers should focus on the older post instead of the recent ones.

Deleting old stuff has a lower priority because it has little effect. It's very likely that the uploader isn't active anymore / has better standards nowadays / did nothing wrong at the time.
With recent posts you hope the deletions will have prevented more bad images from reaching the site, by having the uploaders revise their standards before they post more stuff.

I only ever flagged old content if it was really low quality, a lot of what was uploaded back then probably wouldn't be approved, or even uploaded, now but there is no harm in keeping them.

As for this series, I'm neutral on it. I don't see why we can't upload a pixiv comics, I mean they are there and the doujin rules are there to prevent danbooru from being a dump site for whatever doujins people want translated.

A bigger issue is that flagging tends to create a natural defensive reaction among some people, which leads to rather stupid drama wars over what amounts to nothing.

When it comes to comedy 4koma, though, I think the writing and the humor is more important than the visual medium, provided the visual medium is doing more than taking up space (i.e. the Buckley standard).

Cyberia-Mix said:
The thing is, complainers are in a state of cluelessness about how danbooru operates that isn't going to be solved simply with detailed flagging reasons and occasional comments. You need to spend a considerable amount of time reading the wiki and lurking the forum for this, and if you're not willing to make the effort there's not much mods can do for you other than telling you to stfu or move to a better booru.

Yeah it seems that it would take me another year to master the things around here in danbooru since I frequently stay at this site just to kill time. Maybe I'll leave everything else to the mods since they can handle things eventually, as for me I'll try to ignore pointless arguments and annoying insults rather than becoming an ass as well.

Anelaid said:
I don't see why we can't upload a pixiv comics [...]

Was this part about what I said?

Arrei said:
More detailed flags would be best, yes - but certain images are, without a doubt, badly drawn, and still they get appealed and fervently defended, all too likely because it's Touhou.

Just this. It kinda pained me that the Yoshika-chan pool got deleted but because of it's art, I knew it was just a matter of time.

And really, this pool's art is just, if not, close to as bad as it.