Danbooru

imply symbol-only_commentary -> commentary

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The reason I didn't request this initially is because people were inappropriately adding symbol_commentary to every post where there were any symbols. I gardened it after renaming so hopefully it's a bit better now but it might be worth looking through if you wish to do this.

edit: also topic #15861

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Talulah said:

The reason I didn't request this initially is because people were inappropriately adding symbol_commentary to every post where there were any symbols. I gardened it after renaming so hopefully it's a bit better now but it might be worth looking through if you wish to do this.

A few bad apples, eh? I'll go ahead and clean up a little then. Thank you for the quick response!

Previous the bur in forum #192217 about renaming:

symbol_commentary is supposed to be used when a commentary consists solely of symbols. Right now, it's heavily used in cases when any symbol is present. Theoretically this means symbol_commentary should always be tagged with commentary, and never with commentary_request. The hope is that naming it something like "symbol-only_commentary" would lead to fewer mistags.

I think if the number of erroneous uses has decreased to an insignificant level, then it is acceptable to approve the current BUR. In doing so, you should make sure that all ambiguities are resolved. At the moment, there are ambiguities that I indicated in the previous discussion. The main one is the use of non-English hashtags (post #4675607 ), combination english hashtags + symbol-only_commentary (post #4675947).

Dolmatov said:

Previous the bur in forum #192217 about renaming:

I think if the number of erroneous uses has decreased to an insignificant level, then it is acceptable to approve the current BUR. In doing so, you should make sure that all ambiguities are resolved. At the moment, there are ambiguities that I indicated in the previous discussion. The main one is the use of non-English hashtags (post #4675607 ), combination english hashtags + symbol-only_commentary (post #4675947).

I don't see how your second example applies here but you're right. Unless we exclude non-English hashtags from symbol-only_commentary, this implication doesn't work.

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Talulah said:

edit: also topic #15861

@nonamethanks seems to be supporting this implication in that topic

nonamethanks said:

Yeah, if the tag is for only symbols then the implication should go through. The issue is that people will just continue to misuse the tag imo if it keeps that name, thus propagating mistags.

Since the name was changed to a more appropriate one, the implication should be applied imo. The only problem is that, as @Dolmatov points out, posts with hashtags are still marked symbol-only_commentary. So it all depends on whether we keep those marked that way.

I think this is a pretty straightforward issue. There are currently 0 posts that have both symbol-only_commentary and commentary_request so these hashtags aren't being seen as something to translate. The only real problem is that they aren't English. But there is a good argument to be made that English speakers would be able to recognize them as Twitter hashtags so they are technically understandable symbols. So either hashtags aren't something to be translated and function as symbols, or they shouldn't fall under the symbol-only_commentary tag.

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