Alternate Mario Costume Implications?

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Damian0358

BUR #40679 has been approved by @nonamethanks.

create alias princess_peach_(yukata)_(mario_kart_world) -> princess_peach_(yukata)_(super_mario_odyssey)

nonamethanks said:

No, these should all keep the qualifier. Swapping these tags like this is just going to cause unneeded confusion.

In that case, we have to give the Yukata one a utility alias because not everyone is going to know that the one from Odyssey is the one used in World, something we wouldn't have needed to do if we removed the qualifier.

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Alright, so, with the release of Mario Kart World, we have the full list of costumes (which I've added to the wiki, along with giving Mario Kart Tour and Super Mario Odyssey the same treatment, though anyone is free to revert that latter one), and we find ourselves in an awkward position.

Wario got not just one, but two biker-themed costumes, and neither of them are his WarioWare look. So we need to decide what to do here before the Biker costume gets represented here, because wario_(biker) is potentially ambiguous.

I think we have three options: 1) we tag it as wario_(biker)_(mario_kart_world) like the Princess costumes we had to disambiguate and leave the WarioWare costume untagged, that'd be less work for us; 2) we tag it as wario_(biker) and make wario_(warioware), because I don't think the latter has ever been officially referred to as 'Biker Wario' or 'Wario (Biker)', so technically just giving it its own tag named after WarioWare would be fine enough; 3) wario_(biker)_(mario_kart_world) and wario_(warioware), deprecate wario_(biker), no ambiguity.

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Damian0358

BUR #42538 has been approved by @nonamethanks.

create implication princess_peach_(farmer) -> princess_peach
create implication princess_peach_(yukata)_(super_mario_odyssey) -> princess_peach
create implication bowser_(tuxedo) -> bowser
create implication luigi_(touring) -> luigi
create implication luigi_(oasis) -> luigi
create implication luigi_(farmer) -> luigi
create implication luigi_(gondolier) -> luigi
create implication princess_peach_(sightseeing) -> princess_peach
create implication princess_daisy_(pro_racer) -> princess_daisy
create implication bowser_(supercharged) -> bowser
create implication bowser_(biker) -> bowser
create implication toadette_(soft_server) -> toadette
create implication pauline_(aero)_(mario) -> pauline_(mario)

Missing implications in the meantime.

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Damian0358

BUR #42785 has been approved by @nonamethanks.

create implication luigi_(pro_racer) -> luigi
create implication princess_peach_(pro_racer) -> princess_peach
create implication bowser_jr._(biker_jr.) -> bowser_jr.
create implication wario_(biker)_(mario_kart_world) -> wario

A few more popped up in the meantime, including that Biker outfit for Wario. Going with the qualified option on it, but we should now discuss what to do with WarioWare Wario.

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Damian0358 said:

BUR #42785 has been approved by @nonamethanks.

create implication luigi_(pro_racer) -> luigi
create implication princess_peach_(pro_racer) -> princess_peach
create implication bowser_jr._(biker_jr.) -> bowser_jr.
create implication wario_(biker)_(mario_kart_world) -> wario

A few more popped up in the meantime, including that Biker outfit for Wario. Going with the qualified option on it, but we should now discuss what to do with WarioWare Wario.

I always thought of Wario's WarioWare design mostly being handled by the "Wario WarioWare tag combo. Though in hindsight, that's pretty naive considering Wario gets a few other designs in that series, like Wario-man. I guess we can go with "Wario (WarioWare)" for this design? It's highly associated with WarioWare as is, so I think it'd be a safe bet.

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Damian0358

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I always thought of Wario's WarioWare design mostly being handled by the "Wario WarioWare tag combo. Though in hindsight, that's pretty naive considering Wario gets a few other designs in that series, like Wario-man. I guess we can go with "Wario (WarioWare)" for this design? It's highly associated with WarioWare as is, so I think it'd be a safe bet.

Yeah, I don't think we can think of anything more intuitive than that. It's also worth considering how this'll work in relation to Smash, since his WarioWare look is his default there too.

tamuraakemi said:

Are Peach (Aero) and Daisy (Aero) visually distinct from biker peach and biker daisy?

At a glance, they do appear to look exactly the same, but someone else should double-check.

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Damian0358

BUR #42904 has been approved by @nonamethanks.

create alias princess_peach_(aero) -> biker_peach
create alias princess_daisy_(aero) -> biker_daisy
create alias rosalina_(aero) -> biker_rosalina

Since we haven't had much discussion, I'll force it this way. Unless someone suggests otherwise, I think it makes sense to alias the Aero costumes to the existing Biker tags, especially Peach, since her tag includes the The Super Mario Bros. Movie variant of her biker look, and they seem to all look the same otherwise. I was going to do the same for Pauline, but then I noticed that her Mario Kart 8 Deluxe Biker Pauline look is actually different from her Mario Kart World Pauline (Aero) look, so I didn't include it.

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