Danbooru

Pointless Pools

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Maiden_in_Orange said:

Huh. Says it got undeleted by a mod, for some utterly baffling reason. But thank you for deleting it initially nevertheless!

We don't delete Pools due to the images therein being deleted. It's still a valid series.

Veraducks said:

We don't delete Pools due to the images therein being deleted. It's still a valid series.

Oh, so that's why! Sorry about that. I just saw it as pointless since everything in it got deleted, so why keep it around? I understand now. Since it still works pretty well for what it is in the sense of it being a series pool, I'll just leave it alone then. Sorry again for the little mishap!

blindVigil said:

Why would we even need a pool like this? Just seems like virtually useless meta data as far as Danbooru is concerned.

Exactly my thoughts as well, while it may be a cool thing I don't think having pools for off-site statistics would be useful for Danbooru.

punished_K said:

pool #20546
Pixiv - Overall Daily Rankings #1 (General)

Isn't this a tag on Pixiv itself?
@AkaringoP

The pixiv itself has a tag(ex. 原神10000users入り) for the number of bookmarks, which is an arbitrary tag that anyone can add regardless of the actual number.

There are many posts that are at the top of the pixiv rankings, but their aesthetic standards and Danbooru don't always match. That's part of the reason why this pool exists, and the other part is that you can see the changes in trends over time over the past 16 years or so, so for these reasons, I think this pool is worth maintaining and will continue to grow unless pixiv decides to shut it down.

AkaringoP said:

There are many posts that are at the top of the pixiv rankings, but their aesthetic standards and Danbooru don't always match. That's part of the reason why this pool exists, and the other part is that you can see the changes in trends over time over the past 16 years or so, so for these reasons, I think this pool is worth maintaining and will continue to grow unless pixiv decides to shut it down.

But how is this useful to Danbooru?

Don't make pools that are just "this post was popular on this other site". There are endless variations of that concept and it's usually pretty arbitrary which posts are popular.

evazion said:

Don't make pools that are just "this post was popular on this other site". There are endless variations of that concept and it's usually pretty arbitrary which posts are popular.

Pixiv is not a some ragtag site.
It's the site with over 50 million registered users and over 100 million uploaded works.
Being the #1 daily ranking on a site like that is not something that can be dismissed as "this post was popular on this other site", just this one line.

Of course, I agree that the ranking of early works was somewhat arbitrary when there were fewer users. But as the years go by and we cross the 10 million user mark, the rankings become curated and show trends in their own right. For me, working on the pool of early works brought back memories of those days, and the fact that most of those works had already been uploaded to Danbooru made me appreciate the old users once again.

So this pool is useful for two kinds of users.

  • People who want to collect recent, quality, and already publicly verified work.
  • People who want to see the flow of a trend accumulated over time with 4-5 thousand works.

Was there anything I wrote that wasn't clear enough? Or was this comment completely useless that it didn't deserve a single line of response?

I'm afraid we delete this pool so lightly and it's going to be like nothing happened.

AkaringoP said:

Was there anything I wrote that wasn't clear enough? Or was this comment completely useless that it didn't deserve a single line of response?

I'm afraid we delete this pool so lightly and it's going to be like nothing happened.

@AkaringoP

We already had pool #2778 (Pixiv 1000) which is similarly deleted.

punished_K said:

We already had pool #2778 (Pixiv 1000) which is similarly deleted.

@punished_K

Re-read my comment above as well.
The tags in pool #2778 you mentioned are arbitrary tags that any users can add.
I can't understand how this is similar to daily rankings at all.

The pixiv itself has a tag(ex. 原神10000users入り) for the number of bookmarks, which is an arbitrary tag that anyone can add regardless of the actual number.

Updated

Pixiv 1000 had criteria so vague that it would apply to hundreds of thousands of images, which is obviously unsustainable. I like the idea of pool #20546 and would find it useful, since Pixiv only appears to permit loading one day at a time for its daily rankings.